Islamic Forum

# Facing Mecca? Round Earth?

## Recommended Posts

I am curious about facing mecca.

The fact taht we are on a globe causes a problem for anyone thats not in a line of site view of mecca.

You might be facing west or whichever direction but your not actually looking in the actual direction of mecca.

##### Share on other sites

Salaam, You have to understand ranma 1/2 that there are Muslim Scholars who have done years of research on every aspect of Islam and have made life easy for us ordinary Muslims. they are aware that the World is Round (oval) and not flat. We need to give them credit for their knowledge. Check out the details below and I would request you to check the Link where I took this infomation from so you could see the whole picture clearly.

Salaam.

Qibla Direction from North America:

The controversy of Qibla from North America surfaces from time to time. One group of people favors the direction of South-East, and another group favors North-East. Those who favor South-East are mislead by looking at the flat map with an argument that Makkah is south and East of North America. They are under a fallacy that the earth is a flat plane. Actually it is more like a sphere floating in space of three dimensions. North Pole is a point from where every direction is South; there is no East or West from there. If you take a globe and stretch a thread from Alaska to Makkah, you will see that the thread passes through or close by North Pole. So, the Qibla from Alaska will be towards North. On a flat map, it appears to be South-East from Alaska, which is not correct.

The map on the right is a true projection of the globe keeping Makkah at the center of projection. This projection allows us to draw a line from any place to Makkah and note the angle from the longitude lines. That gives the Qibla from North. For example, take Alaska, and draw a line from Alaska to Makkah (as shown by blue line). You will see that the line passes through North Pole, so the Qibla from Alaska is due North. Curved lines on this map are longitude lines and they all meet at South and North Poles. They are not like latitude lines that are parallel to each other and do not meet. Take another example, Miami. The green line from Miami to Makkah makes an angle of about 56 degrees from the longitude line that goes to North Pole. So, the Qibla from Miami is 56 degrees to East from North.

If that is confusing, then let us think that there is a very high minaret over Ka’bah, so high that it reaches the sky. Everyone would agree that if we can see that minaret, facing to that is the direction of Qibla. Now, Allah (SWT) has provided that imaginary minaret in the form of the sun being at the top of that minaret. It has been observed for centuries that there are two days in a year (May 28 and on July 16) when sun comes exactly overhead Ka’bah at the local noon time. Muslims in many distant countries for centuries used to wait for these dates, in the hope to see which direction is the sun and then set the orientation of the Masjids.

It has been observed that around noon time of Makkah, it is about 6 am in Nova Scotia, Canada and Maine, USA. The sun rises in those locations as it comes overhead Makkah at local noon time. Facing the sun on those two dates around 6 am gives the correct direction of Qibla from North America. Those who had observed this confirmed that they saw the sun in North East direction at the specified time and date. Therefore, it is correct to say that Qibla from North America is generally North-East, except from Alaska and California where it is close to North direction.

(you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetmoonsighting(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/qibla.html"]KAABA (Makkah) DIRECTION:[/url]

##### Share on other sites

Just a thought, but if you lived at the point that was on the exact opposite side of the world from Mecca, in theory, you would be facing Mecca no matter which way you faced. Just a thought.

##### Share on other sites

Actually my post is that since in fact the earth is round (im not suggesting the quran says its flat)

The idea of facing mecca is symbolic since anyone not on the same side and altitude as mecca will actually be facing it but rather out into space.

Facing Meccas is symbolic correct? Or are you actually supposed to be facing Mecca? If thats the case now that we have GPS systems and such has anyone made a way to actually face mecca (such as look down at this particular angel...

This is more of a random thought of mine. Thanks.

##### Share on other sites

I read a paragraph in Risale-i Nur abut your question, ı copied here :

The Islamic scholars have accepted that the earth is round, and this in no way contradicts religion. The word â€˜sathâ€™ in the verse81 does not indicate that the earth is not round. It has been laid down by the learned authorities that to be turned towards the qibla (istikbal-i kible) while performing the prayers is obligatory, and this is applicable to every part of the prayers, including the bowing and prostrating. Since according to the Shariâ€˜a, there is a luminous line from the Kaâ€˜ba upwards as far as the Divine Throne, and downwards to the ground, performing all the actions of the prayers in the direction of the qibla is possible with the earth being round.

S a i d N u r s i

( 14th ray)

## Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

## Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account