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In order for a single protein to form, five separate conditions that demolish the very foundations of Darwinists’ theories need to be met simultaneously:

 

1st condition:

 

There are more than 200 amino acids in nature. Only 20 specific amino acids need to be selected in order for proteins to form. If any other amino acid apart from these 20 enters the equation, no protein will result.

 

2nd condition:

 

Following the selection of these special 20 amino acids, it is essential they be set out in a specific sequence. Even if all the conditions are completely fulfilled, just a single amino acid being in the wrong sequence will prevent protein forming.

 

3rd condition:

 

The amino acids constituting protein all have to be left-handed.

 

• Although right- and left-handed amino acids have all the same characteristics, they are mirror images of one anther, like right- and left-handed gloves.

 

• There is not a single right-handed amino acid in living structures.

 

• If just one right-handed amino acid enters the equation, that protein will be incapable of being used.

 

• The probability of a small protein being formed from left-handed amino acids alone is 1 in 10210.

 

The well-known chemist Walter T. Brown makes this statement on the subject:

 

 

… the amino acids that comprise the proteins found in living things, including plants, animals, bacteria, molds, and even viruses, are essentially all left-handed. No known natural process can isolate either the left- or the right-handed variety. The mathematical probability that chance processes could produce just one tiny protein molecule with only left-handed amino acids is virtually zero.1

 

 

4th condition:

 

Amino acids are bound by "peptide bonds" alone.

 

- As scientists discovered amino acids, they established that the amino acids constituting proteins were connected in a very interesting, different way to that observed in nature. That bond is a special chemical one known as the peptide bond.

 

- The atoms in molecules are generally connected together by covalent bonds, Only amino acids are bound together by special peptide bonds.

 

- Peptide bonds can only be dissolved at high temperature, or prolonged exposure to powerful acids or alkalis. It is these peptide bonds that make proteins very strong and resistant.

 

5th condition:

 

• The amino acid sequence that needs to take place in order for a protein to form has to be linear.

 

• In other words, the amino acid chain that takes place must not be a structure that branches out and develops lateral chains, but has to have a straight structure with amino acids following on one from the other.

 

• Sydney Fox conducted an experiment using amino acids to try to produce protein. He heated dry amino acid compounds in an atmosphere of nitrogen at 160-180 degrees for several hours.

 

• Amino acids bound to one another, but not in a linear manner. They were not connected by peptide bonds and branched out rather than being linear.

 

• Fox called these proteinoids, though they were in reality nothing more that irregular strings with nothing to do with proteins or life.

 

• These sequences made the existing amino acids used in the experiment non-functional.

 

• The experiment in question was invalid in many other respects. You can obtain detailed information about this here.

 

All of the preconditions listed above have to be fully met in order for a single protein to form. And the probability of all these conditions being met and giving rise

to a single protein is ONE IN 10950.

 

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1. Walter T. Brown, In the Beginning (1989), p. 8

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Which are you saying?

 

• The probability of a small protein being formed from left-handed amino acids alone is 1 in 10210.

 

The mathematical probability that chance processes could produce just one tiny protein molecule with only left-handed amino acids is virtually zero.

 

1 in 10210 is nothing like "virtually zero". It took billions of years for life to appear on earth, plenty of time for a 1:10210 change to happen millions of times.

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Obviously what our friend meant to say was 10 to the power of 210 or 10[using large font size is not allowed]210[using large font size is not allowed]. This is massively larger than 10210.

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Obviously what our friend meant to say was 10 to the power of 210 or 10[using large font size is not allowed]210[using large font size is not allowed]. This is massively larger than 10210.

No, Wattle is correct. Our friend did mean 10210. I found the article he was quoting from (or which quoted his source):

 

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It is clearly 1:10210

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Yes, the mistake emanated from that article, but is clearly just a typing error. The article even suggests the total number of electrons in the universe 1079. Again, this is clearly meant to mean 10 to the power of 79.

 

Nobody would suggest that the probability of a protein forming is as little as 1 in 10210. A cursory google search clearly indicates otherwise. So I repeat, the original poster meant 10 to the power of 210. If this figure is correct, the poster is right to say that the probability is virtually zero.

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If he is right ... he doesn't actually tell us how this figure is calculated, and indeed I can't make sense of his argument. I know virtually nothing about microbiology but it seems as if he has missed out a piece of information otherwise the 4th and 5th points are contradictory.

 

The amino acids constituting protein all have to be left-handed.

 

� Although right- and left-handed amino acids have all the same characteristics, they are mirror images of one anther, like right- and left-handed gloves.

 

� There is not a single right-handed amino acid in living structures.

 

� If just one right-handed amino acid enters the equation, that protein will be incapable of being used.

 

� The probability of a small protein being formed from left-handed amino acids alone is 1 in 10210.

 

 

edit - by the way, Walter T Brown is a loony Young Earth Creationist, with qualifications in ... mechanical engineering.

 

Another edit - but Brown is at least an amusing loony. Here's his explanation of current geology from (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/hydro.html"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/hydro.html[/url]

 

On Friday, March 24, 1995, creationist Walter Brown, Director of the Center for Scientific Creation in Phoenix, Arizona, spoke at a local Vancouver church to share his "hydroplate theory" with the audience.

 

According to the hydroplate theory, the Earth's crust once floated upon a thin layer of water which was under great pressure. The crust began to crack, allowing the water to come to the surface. Since the water was under great pressure, it shot out of the crust like fountains, possibly as high as twenty miles into the air, and rained down for about 40 days and 40 nights. The part of the earth's mantle where the crack began and spread, very quickly, buckled up and now forms the entire mid-Atlantic ridge. This geological formation divides the Atlantic ocean down the middle, all the way from Canada to the tip of South America. Brown claims the shape of the ridge bears the specific outlines of the continents' edges (the Americas, Europe, and Africa), which, after the flood, moved over the layer of water to their current geographical positions.

 

According to Brown, the hydroplate theory, along with the occurrence of a global flood, explains the origin of 17 major geological features on Earth, most or all of which he claims are unexplained by modern science. These features include ice ages, frozen mammoths, the mid-Atlantic ridge, submarine canyons, coal and oil formation, ocean trenches, mountains, guyots, the Grand Canyon, strata, salt domes, and volcanoes. However, most, if not all of these features are indeed explained quite well by modern science, so Brown is being less than forthright. Also, his hydroplate theory fails to explain a number of features which are explained by conventional plate tectonics, such as the data from magnetostratigraphy of the ocean crust, overlying sediments, and terrestrial lava flows, correlated with radio-isotope dating. In addition, a global flood scenario has serious problems explaining such things as arctic ice layers and fossil varves.

 

Brown is a young-earth creationist, so the cracking of the earth's crust and the ensuing flood must have happened only six or eight thousand years ago, and within the space of a few weeks (i.e., forty days and forty nights!)

Edited by wattle

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