Enochian 0 Posted January 3, 2011 How does Islam explain this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enochian 0 Posted January 3, 2011 Please read the "Dzogchen" wikipedia article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enochian 0 Posted January 3, 2011 Noone has anything? It happens every few years. Dalai Lama said the last time was recently with a Gelug monk Khenpo Achung in 2004. Many lamas and townspeople have witnessed rainbow bodies over the years. According to buddhism there are two main results: If one finishes the the thogal process before death, one obtains the light body before death. They look normal, BUT other peoples hands would go through, because there is nothing material in the body. This has not happened in centuries. The other more common result that occurs even today is when the person does not finish the thogal process before death. Then at death the corpse shrinks to the size of a small child or dinner plate. The practitioner is a Buddha at this point anyway though just like above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enochian 0 Posted January 4, 2011 It says at the top "Insha'Allah we can clear all your doubts with solid proofs, and help you understand how Islam is the true path." So where are the responses? Are the Mahasiddhas correct that refuge in the Three Jewels (use wikipedia) rather than Allah is the true path? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAHIMI 4 Posted January 4, 2011 Salam, this is your self appointed doorman here, welcome to the forum.. It says at the top "Insha'Allah we can clear all your doubts with solid proofs, and help you understand how Islam is the true path." So where are the responses? Be patient, those with knowledge will respond to you IA, as for me , I have no clue what you're talking about.. Perhaps you can briefly explain : It happens every few years. Dalai Lama said the last time was recently with a Gelug monk Khenpo Achung in 2004. Many lamas and townspeople have witnessed rainbow bodies over the years. According to buddhism there are two main results: If one finishes the the thogal process before death, one obtains the light body before death. They look normal, BUT other peoples hands would go through, because there is nothing material in the body. This has not happened in centuries. The other more common result that occurs even today is when the person does not finish the thogal process before death. Then at death the corpse shrinks to the size of a small child or dinner plate. The practitioner is a Buddha at this point anyway though just like above. -what is the 'thogal' process? Is that what it takes to have 'rainbow' bodies? -How do you correlate the above with your belief being the 'truth'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enochian 0 Posted January 4, 2011 Hi RAHIMI, Did you read the second half of the "Dzogchen" wikipedia article? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAHIMI 4 Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Hi RAHIMI,Did you read the second half of the "Dzogchen" wikipedia article? Actually I didn't check out wiki at all, too lazy I guess, perhaps you can offer a little summary.. I remember watching a documentary awhile back about some Japanese Buddhist monk who keeps himself on a diet of barks/peeling of pine trees, the aim being after he died, his bodies would be naturally mummified..is this similar to thogal? Edited January 4, 2011 by RAHIMI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enochian 0 Posted January 4, 2011 Please just read the "Rigpa and Rainbow body" section of the Dzogchen entry on wikipedia. I can't post a link for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redeem 3 Posted January 4, 2011 Enochian, firstly, "Insha'Allah" means God willing. If God wills it, we will be able to bring you to Islam. If He doesn't, then we will not. Secondly, just because you have created a topic does not mean it will capture the interest of forum members. To comment on the issue, I'm interested in knowing what scientists have to say, if they have been able to document and experience this reported phenomenon. Salam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enochian 0 Posted January 4, 2011 Scientists have not even heard of this phenomenon. Please read "Heart Drops of Dharmakaya" and any Dzogchen book by Chögyal Namkhai Norbu for more information if you are interested in learning more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enochian 0 Posted January 4, 2011 By the way, rainbow body is just simply the result of achieving Buddhahood on the physical earth (as opposed to in the bardo or such). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orthodox 0 Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Well, most of us are busy. I would read the thing if it was of any use and even validity, I would skimm through having things to study. What is the point of you thread so we move on from there, inshALlah? Most of these things have been heavily refued in the past even on this site. Edited January 4, 2011 by Orthodox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enochian 0 Posted January 4, 2011 I guess I have my answer. The Three Jewels are the correct object of refuge, as the great Mahasiddhas have said. Thanks. Goodbye everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orthodox 0 Posted January 4, 2011 Goodbye. Be happy you didn't get kicked out providing information that has not been authorized by anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kai Thaabit 20 Posted January 5, 2011 Maybe, they are starchildren from outer space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AsadullahHamza 0 Posted January 5, 2011 No soul has authority over another. Guidance and straying is a matter between God and you. aakwrAllahwbHu I guess I have my answer. The Three Jewels are the correct object of refuge, as the great Mahasiddhas have said. Thanks. Goodbye everyone. Hey there, Enochian. JazakAllah for the food for thought. And don't mind everything that others say, inshallah. la ilaaha illaa Allaahu Al-‘Atheemu Al-Haleemu, la ilaaha illaa Allaahu Rabbul ‘arshil-‘atheemi, la ilaaha illaa Allaahu Rabbus-samaawaati wa Rabbul-ardhi wa Rabbul-‘arshil-kareemi there is no god except Allah, the All-Mighty, the Forbearing; there is no god except Allah, the Lord of the Mighty Throne; there is no god except Allah, Lord of the heavens, Lord of the earth and Lord of the noble Throne. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim the plumber 0 Posted January 5, 2011 I would like to comment but ????? It is annoying to have a post requiring us to do our own research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites