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Please explain how this can happen with Islam?. Muslims here ( England ) dont want to be a part of our society they want there rules, there laws etc. is this not a factor of Islam itself?, to want to impose Islamic law on everyone in the world?.

 

I often see Muslims holding signs saying "Islam WILL dominate the world"...tell me Why would i or anyone in a half decent society WANT to welcome anyone or any relgion or in this case an ideology (Islam) that wants to dominate me and our country?. Why?.

 

It baffles me to say the least. You can have your Masjid's in England, your free to follow your religion/ideology in England. Your free to say you hate everything the west stands for. But you are not free to impose it on others because you believe it to be true and neither are we.

 

Sounds in my opinion like Nazism dont you think?.

 

Peace

Good Post. Too many moderate muslims put their heads in the sand when confronted with the concerns we in the west have. The standard reply is that Islam means peace. Maybe that's true, but a whole lot of muslims are giving us a different impression. I love England, but from what I hear, radical Islamists pretty well have special protection there, much to the detriment of the vast majority.

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I lived in the UK for 2 years actually and have relatives there who I often visit there plus I was born and live in Ireland.

 

I was born in the US and have lived here all of my life. And the topic was about if and why Americans don't want Islam. But I guess your two years was worth more than my life

 

You also lack theoretical knowledge on what assimilation is plus you can't differentiate between culture and religion.

 

Neither can you. Here's your own statement

You need to learn to differentiate between religion and culture. Culture includes religion, language, ethnicity etc.

 

So why am I supposed to learn to differentiate between religion and culture if religion is a part of culture??

 

I would reply to your comments if you had have kept the discussion mature but I am not going to waste my time with your ''chuckle chuckle''and immaturity. I prefer to spend my time talking to people willing to learn rather than chuckle chuckle.

 

Oh, so i gave factual examples and said ((chuckle chuckle)) and now you can't carry on the conversation??? Is someone taking themselves a little too seriously?? Anyway, the topic is about why Americans don't want Islam and I think I, as an American, did a good job explaining why. Did you expect me to explain why Americans WANT Islam?? That wasn't the question. So what is your expectation (or demand)?

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Hi all

Please explain how this can happen with Islam?. Muslims here ( England ) dont want to be a part of our society they want there rules, there laws etc. is this not a factor of Islam itself?, to want to impose Islamic law on everyone in the world?.

 

I often see Muslims holding signs saying "Islam WILL dominate the world"...tell me Why would i or anyone in a half decent society WANT to welcome anyone or any relgion or in this case an ideology (Islam) that wants to dominate me and our country?. Why?.

 

It baffles me to say the least. You can have your Masjid's in England, your free to follow your religion/ideology in England. Your free to say you hate everything the west stands for. But you are not free to impose it on others because you believe it to be true and neither are we.

 

Sounds in my opinion like Nazism dont you think?.

 

Peace

Hi ,

Well you see the UK has adopted a multicultural policy which David Cameron recently said has failed. The reason it failed is that when immigrants came there in the 1970s and 1980s etc including Hindus, Muslims etc they were left to themselves. The government allowed them to live in their own sections of society and did not intervene or encourage integrating them into society. I am not saying this is the sole cause of extremism in the UK but it is a factor. Why? When a group of people are living with people of their own culture, going to schools with people just of their own culture and have friends just from their own culture, they are not mixing with other people and therefore they are more likely to become hostile and form prejudices about another culture. For example when I was in the UK there was a street with shops - a shop for black people, a shop for pakistani people, a shop for indian people and a shop for white people. Going into a shop you are not welcome in you just didn't think of.

 

The UK has not adopted an inter-culturalist approach but I think it would work better. This would encourage people to interact with each other while still showing signs of belonging to a culture - but it would prevent the problem of loosing ones cultural identity in assimilationist approaches and it would prevent the isolation and formation of ghetto's that happens in a multicultural society.

I think there are values in society all cultures should adhere to which is also an inter-culturalist approach such as prohibition on murder, respect for all people, tolerance. There are lots of values that do not affect many cultures and religions.

 

I can understand your opinions. What I say is not what all Muslims believe and you are right there are some who want sharia law in the UK but I don't agree with them because I think it makes people who are not Muslim hostile to Islam and I think it should be more important to Muslims to get non Muslims to understand different aspects of Islam. People will not want to learn about Islam if Sharia law is shoved in their face but like I said not all Muslims will agree with me. However when all Muslims are attacked because of these people it is easy to see why some people do not want to be part of a society where they are misunderstood at the cost of some extremist person. I think it is more important that communication from all sides is built upon. I know there are many Muslims also who want to build bridges with other people - and building bridges does not mean either side has to give up their fundamental beliefs. Me living in Ireland while it is not ruled under Sharia law it does not mean I can't live as a Muslim - I still pray, I can fast during Ramadan and I don't eat pork.

 

Unfortunately there are some people who do not wish to interact in society and there are people who will support things that are not present in the scripture but like I said before it should be the aim of Muslims to educate people about Islamic scripture at least then when people make decisions it is made with knowledge rather than ignorance and it should be the aim of governments to invest more in education in this area.

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So why am I supposed to learn to differentiate between religion and culture if religion is a part of culture??

A culture can include religion e.g. Islamic culture but a religion does not include culture because religion comes from scripture which cannot be changed. Cultures change over time. That is why lots of people associate Islamic culture with Islam.

 

I never claimed to not understand why Americans don't understand Islam, I actually agreed with you on a few points.

 

I certainly have no expectation from you.

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A culture can include religion e.g. Islamic culture but a religion does not include culture because religion comes from scripture which cannot be changed. Cultures change over time. That is why lots of people associate Islamic culture with Islam.

 

Actually, Islam is based on a culture, the Arab culture, which is why the Quran was written in Arabic, a language that Muslims often claim cannot be translated properly into other languages (when it's convenient for them to claim this). It's also interesting that when Western people convert to Islam they are "encouraged" to have a new, Arab name. Now Muslims explain this as merely being something to represent the new life they have, but why does it always seem to have to be an Arab name??

 

I never claimed to not understand why Americans don't understand Islam, I actually agreed with you on a few points.

 

I certainly have no expectation from you.

 

Well that's fine. But here's how I can put it simply. There seems to be some underlying demand that if they need the US, then the US is demanded to need them. As I said, what is Islam supposed to do for the US?? Morality?? Would that morality be forced?? The US can have as much morality as it deems fit. There's nothing preventing them from having as much morality as they want except for their strong desire for freedom. Morality is NOT universal.

 

As far as the government including them, it is up to them to include themselves. You make it sound like the govt forced them to come there and stay there. As they say, the door swings both ways

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Angela Merkel of Germany has recently been forced to admit, to her chagrin, that multiculturalism has failed. Is she talking about the Chinese? The French?? Americans?? Africans?? Or is she talking about Muslims, and of course, can never dare explicitly say this? Try to guess. Let's face it, the push by Muslims is rarely for them to be more German or British or American or French, it's for the host country to become more Muslim.

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name='Lost_In_Paradise' date='May 16 2011, 03:00 AM' post='1237873']

Very true, I agree.

 

Yayyyy agreement! I like agreements.

 

It is up to Muslims to change the perception of Islam in America, like you said most people are too lazy to do their own research on whether what is reported in the media is true. I do think Islam is something people do actually want to know about as it is so topical right now. TV perhaps but I know when I see religious programmes on tv i turn it off because usually the person talking is just talking about their opinion more than anything else. There are actually lots of Islamic radio stations online.

 

Yes opinion can be heavily intertwined with tv broadcast. Maybe something like a catechism searies. This would delve into why the teachings are what they are and how they get to that. It might help separate the culture from religion. Well online radio is a start. They in my opinion they need to move more mainstream.

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Actually, Islam is based on a culture, the Arab culture, which is why the Quran was written in Arabic, a language that Muslims often claim cannot be translated properly into other languages (when it's convenient for them to claim this). It's also interesting that when Western people convert to Islam they are "encouraged" to have a new, Arab name. Now Muslims explain this as merely being something to represent the new life they have, but why does it always seem to have to be an Arab name??

 

 

As far as the government including them, it is up to them to include themselves. You make it sound like the govt forced them to come there and stay there. As they say, the door swings both ways

You can be Christian and speak Arabic. Islam is a religion not a language. There are also arabic names that Christian people have that are not considered Muslim names.

 

You clearly can't read I said it is the responsibility of both sides and I placed the majority of the responsibility on Muslims and I said they should include themselves in society. How do I make it sound like the government forced them to stay there lol

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Yayyyy agreement! I like agreements.

Yes opinion can be heavily intertwined with tv broadcast. Maybe something like a catechism searies. This would delve into why the teachings are what they are and how they get to that. It might help separate the culture from religion. Well online radio is a start. They in my opinion they need to move more mainstream.

I also like agreements lol.

Yea that has potential and I think it should be on a channel people are more likely to watch rather than a religious channel

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You can be Christian and speak Arabic. Islam is a religion not a language. There are also arabic names that Christian people have that are not considered Muslim names.

 

I can't ever recall a westerner converting from Islam to Christianity and being encouraged to take on a name like "Paul".

 

You clearly can't read I said it is the responsibility of both sides and I placed the majority of the responsibility on Muslims and I said they should include themselves in society. How do I make it sound like the government forced them to stay there lol

 

For the fact that you mentioned that the government has any responsibility at all in this matter. They let them in, and they can leave anytime they want.

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I can't ever recall a westerner converting from Islam to Christianity and being encouraged to take on a name like "Paul".

For the fact that you mentioned that the government has any responsibility at all in this matter. They let them in, and they can leave anytime they want.

Paul? Yea ok.

The reason Muslims are encouraged to learn the quran in arabic is that it was revealed in arabic and translating it can lead to some problems. Any person speaking more than one language will tell you there are some words in a language that are difficult to translate into other languages. Like I said Chrisitians in the Arab world also speak arabic it isn't like arabic is exclusive to Islam.

 

The government do have a responsibility to their citizens unless you want to take that matter up with your government go ahead.

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We invaded Afghanistan first, and we did it to go after bin Ladin who'd declared war on us and was busily engaged in blowing up embassies, running suicide boats against our ships, and bombing buildings we'd gone to a lot of trouble to put up. Were it not for his residence there, we'd have been perfectly happy to go back to ignoring the country entirely following the exit of the Soviet Union.

 

We invaded Iraq for a lot of reasons, but the only reason that really counted was that GHW Bush's son was the president, and Saddam had gone to a lot of trouble to stick his finger in his dad's eye. Hell, the guy had a picture of Papa Bush's face tiled out on the floor of the Baghdad Hilton, strategically placed to require everyone who entered or left to step on it. Did you know they tore up those tiles the first day they entered Baghdad?

 

Iran's a problem because they're pushing for nuclear weapons, which would annoy israel, and even worse, push Saudi Arabia and the rest of the peninsula to get some for themselves, too. The Iranians may not much care for us, but that's nothing compared to how much the Saudis hate Iran. Everybody on that side of the gulf had been paying Saddam for years to fight Iran. They don't get along. It's a Sunni vs. Shia thing, and there's no fight as vicious as a family fight.

 

Nuclear war isn't a good option. It'd be better if we took that off the table over there.

 

As ever, Jesse

 

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QUOTE(blip [at] May 16 2011, 08:46 PM) *

I can't ever recall a westerner converting from Islam to Christianity and being encouraged to take on a name like "Paul".

For the fact that you mentioned that the government has any responsibility at all in this matter. They let them in, and they can leave anytime they want.

 

Paul? Yea ok.

 

That wasn't an answer but merely a sidestep. Why are converts to Islam "encouraged" to take on an Arab name??

 

The reason Muslims are encouraged to learn the quran in arabic is that it was revealed in arabic and translating it can lead to some problems.

 

I don't recall asking why they are encouraged to learn how to speak Arabic

 

Any person speaking more than one language will tell you there are some words in a language that are difficult to translate into other languages.

 

Then what it really comes down to is that you can't be a Muslim unless you learn Arabic because you could never have a proper and thorough understanding of the Quran.

 

Like I said Chrisitians in the Arab world also speak arabic it isn't like arabic is exclusive to Islam.

 

But one must learn Arabic to understand the Quran properly. So getting back to my point, yes religion is part of culture, but in the case of Islam, culture is part of religion as well.

 

The government do have a responsibility to their citizens unless you want to take that matter up with your government go ahead.

 

The question is, how much responsibility?? This is a very Socialist point of view and as you know, the US is far less Socialist than Europe. Should the US be more Socialist because you say so?

 

Anyway, I'd like you to see a real video. It's an artist named Lars Vilks giving a presentation to students at Upsala University. Now, like many experimental artists, what he presents is controversial and he's trying to get a reaction. But all that these people had to do was to walk out of the room if they didn't like what they saw and perhaps complain to the University President later. Now, these are not exceptions to the rule or extremists or rare Muslims, these are Muslim University students. The cream of the crop. So everybody that doesn't simply embrace Islam and it's associated culture is immediately labeled a "bigot" as a form of reverse intimidation. But who are the bigots in this real life video?? This is very telling. Again, these aren't a few extremists, these are Muslim college students of varying ages. But, of course, everybody needs to simply look the other way. Well, it's funny how they couldn't simply look the other way. But it certainly shows what happens when Muslim feel empowered. I would be curious to see how you merely explain this away for yourself. I'm sure you'll find a way.

 

They won't let me post links here, so go to youtube and type in Lars Vilks and go to the second vid listed which is titled "The aftermath of the attacks on Lars Vilks". It's the one that is 10 minutes and 59 seconds. Please watch the whole thing and tell me how much Islam has to offer the US. Thank you.

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Tabari IX:69 "Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah's helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us."

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Tabari IX:69 "Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah's helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us."

 

First of all, this is from Tarikh at-Tabari. Tabari collected everything, ranging from totally authentic hadiths to weak ones to absolute fabrications. This is what he says in the indroduction of his collection:

 

Let him who examines this book of mine know that I have relied, as regards everything I mention therein which I stipulate to be described by me, solely upon what has been transmitted to me by way of reports which I cite therein and traditions which I ascribe to their narrators, to the exclusion of what may be apprehended by rational argument or deduced by the human mind, except in very few cases. This is because knowledge of the reports of men of the past and of contemporaneous views of men of the present do not reach the one who has not witnessed them nor lived in their times except through the accounts of reporters and the transmission of transmitters, to the exclusion of rational deduction and mental inference. Hence, if I mention in this book a report about some men of the past, which the reader of listener finds objectionable or worthy of censure because he can see no aspect of truth nor any factual substance therein, let him know that this is not to be attributed to us but to those who transmitted it to us and we have merely passed this on as it has been passed on to us.

 

In other words, he didn't authenticate the reports in his collection. He left it for others to do.

 

Furthermore, the Prophet, peace and blessings of God be upon him, said that an Arab has no superiority over an non-Arab, except in piety. The Prophet, peace and blessings of God be upon him, also condemned tribalism.

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After watching "The aftermath of the attacks on Lars Vilks", I feel very sad. Humans in their most primitive form, resembling sheep, or more likely like a pack of wild dogs.

Just like the Nazis, Christian fundamentalists, football hooligans and mobs anywhere.

It all comes down to teaching people psychology or allowing them to behave like animals.

Also Mohammed seems to be worshipped as a God (PBUH) by an awful lot of Muslims, I think.

 

Sorry to be so negative in the name of the most merciful and compassionate.

 

kb

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First of all, this is from Tarikh at-Tabari. Tabari collected everything, ranging from totally authentic hadiths to weak ones to absolute fabrications. This is what he says in the indroduction of his collection:

 

Let him who examines this book of mine know that I have relied, as regards everything I mention therein which I stipulate to be described by me, solely upon what has been transmitted to me by way of reports which I cite therein and traditions which I ascribe to their narrators, to the exclusion of what may be apprehended by rational argument or deduced by the human mind, except in very few cases. This is because knowledge of the reports of men of the past and of contemporaneous views of men of the present do not reach the one who has not witnessed them nor lived in their times except through the accounts of reporters and the transmission of transmitters, to the exclusion of rational deduction and mental inference. Hence, if I mention in this book a report about some men of the past, which the reader of listener finds objectionable or worthy of censure because he can see no aspect of truth nor any factual substance therein, let him know that this is not to be attributed to us but to those who transmitted it to us and we have merely passed this on as it has been passed on to us.

 

In other words, he didn't authenticate the reports in his collection. He left it for others to do.

 

Furthermore, the Prophet, peace and blessings of God be upon him, said that an Arab has no superiority over an non-Arab, except in piety. The Prophet, peace and blessings of God be upon him, also condemned tribalism.

 

OK, then perhaps some IBN Kathir tafsir.

 

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Allah said,

 

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(until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam,

 

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(with willing submission), in defeat and subservience,

 

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(and feel themselves subdued.), disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said,

 

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(Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and Christians, and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.) This is why the Leader of the faithful `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, demanded his well-known conditions be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from `Abdur-Rahman bin Ghanm Al-Ash`ari that he said, "I recorded for `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians of Ash-Sham: `In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. This is a document to the servant of Allah `Umar, the Leader of the faithful, from the Christians of such and such city. When you (Muslims) came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration nor use any of them for the purpose of enmity against Muslims. We will not prevent any Muslim from resting in our churches whether they come by day or night, and we will open the doors ﴿of our houses of worship﴾ for the wayfarer and passerby. Those Muslims who come as guests, will enjoy boarding and food for three days. We will not allow a spy against Muslims into our churches and homes or hide deceit ﴿or betrayal﴾ against Muslims. We will not teach our children the Qur'an, publicize practices of Shirk, invite anyone to Shirk or prevent any of our fellows from embracing Islam, if they choose to do so. We will respect Muslims, move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them. We will not imitate their clothing, caps, turbans, sandals, hairstyles, speech, nicknames and title names, or ride on saddles, hang swords on the shoulders, collect weapons of any kind or carry these weapons. We will not encrypt our stamps in Arabic, or sell liquor. We will have the front of our hair cut, wear our customary clothes wherever we are, wear belts around our waist, refrain from erecting crosses on the outside of our churches and demonstrating them and our books in public in Muslim fairways and markets. We will not sound the bells in our churches, except discretely, or raise our voices while reciting our holy books inside our churches in the presence of Muslims, nor raise our voices ﴿with prayer﴾ at our funerals, or light torches in funeral processions in the fairways of Muslims, or their markets. We will not bury our dead next to Muslim dead, or buy servants who were captured by Muslims. We will be guides for Muslims and refrain from breaching their privacy in their homes.' When I gave this document to `Umar, he added to it, `We will not beat any Muslim. These are the conditions that we set against ourselves and followers of our religion in return for safety and protection. If we break any of these promises that we set for your benefit against ourselves, then our Dhimmah (promise of protection) is broken and you are allowed to do with us what you are allowed of people of defiance and rebellion.'''

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After watching "The aftermath of the attacks on Lars Vilks", I feel very sad. Humans in their most primitive form, resembling sheep, or more likely like a pack of wild dogs.

Just like the Nazis, Christian fundamentalists, football hooligans and mobs anywhere.

It all comes down to teaching people psychology or allowing them to behave like animals.

Also Mohammed seems to be worshipped as a God (PBUH) by an awful lot of Muslims, I think.

 

Sorry to be so negative in the name of the most merciful and compassionate.

 

kb

 

And these weren't poor, uneducated extremists in Pakistan or Afghanistan. It really speaks to what would happen if Muslims were empowered in the west. This happens when they aren't even empowered but they sense tolerance and sense they can do this.

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If a thousand Muslims gathered and held a peace rally, and the next day, a single suicide bomber blew up something and killed a thousand people, which event do you think would be more memorable? Meaning, which one would people take as a representative of the nature of Islam?

 

That's a good point and I suppose we'll find that out if and when the peace rally ever happens. There are riots over cartoons and Egyptians have huge protests over a newly appointed Christian Governor and demand he be replaced with a Muslim, but Churches burn in Pakistan, Somali Christians are burned alive, whole villages are burned because of a "supposed" desecration of one Quran and there are no protest to be seen anywhere.

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OK, then perhaps some IBN Kathir tafsir.

 

That is not about Arabs. Anyway, I have got not no problem with the Qur'anic verses nor the tafsir.

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Why does that not surprise me?? I'm surprised you even had a problem with Tabari. But it DOES surprise me for you to think that people shouldn't like this. But, in either case, it means become a Muslim or humiliate yourself or even be killed if you refuse to humiliate yourself. Muhammad was nice to the Christians. He let them live without converting, unlike others. But if they refused to be humiliated inferiors, then Muslims were allowed to kill them. Both stories are pretty similar.

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After watching "The aftermath of the attacks on Lars Vilks", I feel very sad. Humans in their most primitive form, resembling sheep, or more likely like a pack of wild dogs.

Just like the Nazis, Christian fundamentalists, football hooligans and mobs anywhere.It all comes down to teaching people psychology or allowing them to behave like animals.

Also Mohammed seems to be worshipped as a God (PBUH) by an awful lot of Muslims, I think.

 

Sorry to be so negative in the name of the most merciful and compassionate.

 

kb

Why do you lump Christian fundamentalists in with nazis and football hooligans? I think the film really shows who should stand along side at least with the football hooligans. Christians, even fundamentalists(who I don't agree with) don't riot when they feel slighted and they understand what freedom of expression is. The muslim extremists and are in a class of their own.

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Freedom is the only thing you have to give to your enemy, in order to keep it for yourself.

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Why does that not surprise me?? I'm surprised you even had a problem with Tabari. But it DOES surprise me for you to think that people shouldn't like this. But, in either case, it means become a Muslim or humiliate yourself or even be killed if you refuse to humiliate yourself. Muhammad was nice to the Christians. He let them live without converting, unlike others. But if they refused to be humiliated inferiors, then Muslims were allowed to kill them. Both stories are pretty similar.

 

Did I say people should like it? Why do you make so many assumptions, blip?

 

Stop using these strawman arguements. The issue is obviously a bit more complex and less black and white than you make it seem, even according to non-Muslims historians.

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I don't hate Islam, and im american, to be honest i have been reading up alot about the ways of Islamic people and i do believe their religion is beautiful, they dedicate their whole Life to their god!

With that said, I do know alot of americans don't like Islam, i think they let the sucide bombers and terriost stuff scare them so much that they don't look beyond that to relize, that it's not Islam thats bad

 

Im sorry others are making you feel so unwelcome to America.

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