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can you find scholars statement about ibn hishams text

 

 

Worthy of notion is an amazing thing that happened during the visit of the delegation of Najran to Madinah. Ibn-Is~haq reported, “When the delegation of Najran came to the Prophet (SAWS) in his masjid (mosque) it was after al-Asr prayer (the after-noon prayer). When it was time for their prayer, they stood for prayer in the Masjid of the Prophet (SAWS). Thereupon the Prophet (SAWS) ordered his companions to leave them to pray. The delegation faced east and made their prayers.[9]

 

[9] Ibn-Hisham, as-Seerah an-Nabawiyyah (The Prophet’s Biography), 2/108, and Ibnul-Qayyim, Zad al-Ma’ad (The Provisions for the Hereafter), 3/549, 550.

 

Ibn Hisham quoted as ibn Kathir quoted, this makes no difference as the hadith itself is weak and not considered.

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Ibn Hisham quoted as ibn Kathir quoted, this makes no difference as the hadith itself is weak and not considered.

 

As far as I know it is permitted to use the weak Hadith except in establishing the rules. Is that right ? and that is why Ibn Hisham quoted the Hadith

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Do you study the bible and the different versions of it?

 

If yes, may you please help me in some points?

 

I have studied the Bible but I am far from a scholor on it. The book is called the didache. I can give sources but they are not Muslim. I still don't know how slanted these sights are either. I still do not know much about it. Though this video does give some renewed interest in reading and researching it.

 

This is one of them http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/didache.html or http://thedidache.org/ or http://reluctant-messenger.com/didache.htm or http://www.paracletepress.com/didache.html

 

If I can help further please let me know.

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I have studied the Bible but I am far from a scholor on it. The book is called the didache. I can give sources but they are not Muslim. I still don't know how slanted these sights are either. I still do not know much about it. Though this video does give some renewed interest in reading and researching it.

 

This is one of them http://www.earlychri...om/didache.html or http://thedidache.org/ or http://reluctant-mes...com/didache.htm or http://www.paraclete...om/didache.html

 

If I can help further please let me know.

 

Thank you brother. Yes of course if you please. I have delicate questions concerning some words in the original language and the translated ones. Would you like to help me?

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Thank you brother. Yes of course if you please. I have delicate questions concerning some words in the original language and the translated ones. Would you like to help me?

 

I can try. What I can not answer perhaps other can. Just a forwarning I can be a little slow with compairitive language.

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As far as I know it is permitted to use the weak Hadith except in establishing the rules. Is that right ? and that is why Ibn Hisham quoted the Hadith

 

 

Islam is a great religion, perfect and pure. Why shall we use weak sayigs and we have the strong? I don't use weak Hadith as most of them deliver strange meanings against what is the mssage of Islam.

 

This saying is not only weak but cut and not considered so it is worse than a weak saying. (I say saying not hadith cuz there is suspecious not to be uttered by the messenger)

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I can try. What I can not answer perhaps other can. Just a forwarning I can be a little slow with compairitive language.

 

I can't raise the topic here, it's sensitive related to my research. May I send you PM?

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I can't raise the topic here, it's sensitive related to my research. May I send you PM?

 

Yes you may send me a pm.

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why dont you explain to us, why do you not accept scientific facts wich NASA has confirmed with modern techology, like Big bang?

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baby calling Allah

 

 

 

The Prophet Muhammad said, "No babe is born but upon Fitra (as a Muslim). It is his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Polytheist." (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6426)

 

 

SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR THIS CLAIM OF PROPHET MUHAMMED

 

Children are born believers in God, academic claims

 

Children are "born believers" in God and do not simply acquire religious beliefs through indoctrination, according to an academic.

 

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Dr Justin Barrett, a senior researcher at the University of Oxford's Centre for Anthropology and Mind, claims that young people have a predisposition to believe in a supreme being because they assume that everything in the world was created with a purpose.

 

 

He says that young children have faith even when they have not been taught about it by family or at school, and argues that even those raised alone on a desert island would come to believe in God.

 

 

"The preponderance of scientific evidence for the past 10 years or so has shown that a lot more seems to be built into the natural development of children's minds than we once thought, including a predisposition to see the natural world as designed and purposeful and that some kind of intelligent being is behind that purpose," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

 

 

"If we threw a handful on an island and they raised themselves I think they would believe in God."

 

 

In a lecture to be given at the University of Cambridge's Faraday Institute on Tuesday, Dr Barrett will cite psychological experiments carried out on children that he says show they instinctively believe that almost everything has been designed with a specific purpose.

 

In one study, six and seven-year-olds who were asked why the first bird existed replied "to make nice music" and "because it makes the world look nice".

 

Another experiment on 12-month-old babies suggested that they were surprised by a film in which a rolling ball apparently created a neat stack of blocks from a disordered heap.

 

Dr Barrett said there is evidence that even by the age of four, children understand that although some objects are made by humans, the natural world is different.

 

He added that this means children are more likely to believe in creationism rather than evolution, despite what they may be told by parents or teachers.

 

Dr Barrett claimed anthropologists have found that in some cultures children believe in God even when religious teachings are withheld from them.

 

"Children's normally and naturally developing minds make them prone to believe in divine creation and intelligent design. In contrast, evolution is unnatural for human minds; relatively difficult to believe."

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/reli...ic-claims.html

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Hi Everyone,

 

I don’t intend to further the dialogue on this thread as we can all agree this thread has been exhausted. I just wanted to share with my friends my wife gave birth to a baby boy, we named him John Paul after the great Pope John Paul II.

 

Through careful prayer, meditation and discussions I have made the firm decision to remain a Christian. I’ve also made the firm decision never to debate another religion again, only ask questions and answer questions (if anyone has any questions about Christianity). Still I want to thank my Muslim friends that have shown charity, respect and have answered my questions etc. you’ve been very helpful in providing insight into Islam.

 

Take care everyone and God bless,

 

First off congratualtion Augustine. May your child, you and your family be blessed with health and weath from God. Sounds like a good and fitting name.

 

Peace be with with you!

 

In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen

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While I am Muslim I will say I believe that Pope John Paul was a decent man, though I do not agree with his religion

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Hi Everyone,

 

I don’t intend to further the dialogue on this thread as we can all agree this thread has been exhausted. I just wanted to share with my friends my wife gave birth to a baby boy, we named him John Paul after the great Pope John Paul II.

 

Through careful prayer, meditation and discussions I have made the firm decision to remain a Christian. I’ve also made the firm decision never to debate another religion again, only ask questions and answer questions (if anyone has any questions about Christianity). Still I want to thank my Muslim friends that have shown charity, respect and have answered my questions etc. you’ve been very helpful in providing insight into Islam.

 

Take care everyone and God bless,

 

i congratulate you and your wife, but more your wife beacuse she did hard work :D not you, you did easy part.

 

 

Through careful prayer, meditation and discussions I have made the firm decision to remain a Christian.

 

ok, if that is your choice, but my christian brother, if you really loved jesus you would be a muslim beacuse jesus was muslim and his desciples also, and we Muslims are more followers of jesus than christian themselves, beacuse christianity is created by Paul, not by Jesus. So being christian you actually are follower of Paul, not jesus, but we as muslims are proud followers of all prophets, adam, noah, abraham, moses, jesus, muhammed and all others.

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There’s no use my friend, it’s a catch 22 situation. Your book says this, my book says that. We have to make our decisions based on faith, evidence and common sense. We should both just stay true to our own religion and by faith and works of charity hope to bring light to others...

 

God bless,

 

 

Your book says this, my book says that.

 

but your bible commands you to follow Muhammed, and by following Muhammed you immidiatelly follow orginal teachings of jesus. Why dont you listen to you own bible?

 

i know that we can argue in eternety of i say my book say so, and you answer but my book say so...but let examine bible, as i proved in other thread Bible clearly talk about Muhammed. and commands you to follow him.

 

It is not like that you abandon jesus if you follow muhammed, no man, if you are muslim then you are real follow of jesus, we muslims are real followers of jesus, and you christians can never be true follower of jesus if you follow paul's christianity teachings. beacuse christianity is product of paul, not jesus.

 

Jesus himself commands people to be muslims

 

Jesus said the word "Muslim" in Luke 6:40, and told others to be a Muslim:

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Aramaic translated into Hebrew: "Ein talmeed na'leh 'al rabbo; shekken kal adam she'MUSHLAM yihyeh k'rabbo."

 

Translation in English: "No student can be above his teacher, but everyone that is a MUSLIM, can be as his teacher."

 

 

Islam was relgion of jesus also, Islam existed even before Muhammed and before jesus also. God informed us in quran about that, and not only that we have evidence from jewish scriptures, look what this Jewsih rabbi say

 

Jewish Rabbi admits Islam is the oldest religion

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Science News...

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0605150912.htm

 

Mountain Ranges Rise Much More Rapidly Than Geologists Expected

 

ScienceDaily (June 5, 2008) — Mountains may experience a "growth spurt" that can double their heights in as little as two to four million years--several times faster than the prevailing tectonic theory suggests

 

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Garzione high in the Andes, where she studies paleoelevation; the science of how mountains rise. (Credit: University of Rochester)

 

 

In the June 5 issue of Science, Carmala Garzione, associate professor of geology at the University of Rochester, says this rapid uplift means the current theory of plate tectonics will have to be substantially modified to include a process called "delamination."

 

The traditional method of estimating mountain growth is through understanding the history of folding and faulting of the Earth's upper crust. Under this paradigm, geologist have estimated that Andes rose gradually over the past 40 million years.

 

Garzione and her collaborators, John M. Eiler, professor of geochemistry at California Institute of Technology, and Prosenjit Ghosh, assistant professor of atmospheric and oceanic sciences at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore, used recently developed techniques to measure how ancient rainfall and surface temperature altered the chemical composition of a mountain's soil. By studying sedimentary basins in the high Andes Mountains, the team could determine when and at what altitude these ancient sediments were deposited. That record of altitude changes shows that the Andes Mountains rose slowly for tens of millions of years, but then suddenly lifted much faster between 10 and 6 million years ago.

 

The work of one of Garzione's post-doctoral research fellows, Gregory D. Hoke, corroborates the swift-rise theory and shows that not just the mountains, but a broad region more than 350 miles wide rose to some degree with the Andes. In research soon to be published in the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters, Hoke describes his findings on how rivers carved deep canyons into the flanks of the Andes as the mountain range rose. By dating the incisions and mapping the depth and extent of the canyons, Hoke shows that the surface uplift that occurred in the sedimentary basin where Garzione took her measurements must have happened across the entire width of the Andes Mountain range.

 

Garzione and her colleagues show that with the addition to their new findings, a broad range of geologic indicators, including the history of folding and faulting, erosion, volcanic eruptions, and sediment accumulation suggest a hotly debated tectonic process called delamination likely at work, says Garzione. Although delamination has been proposed for decades, Garzione says it has been controversial because mechanical models of mountain building have a hard time reproducing it, and, until the new findings, there has been a lack of reliable paleoelevation measurements.

 

When oceanic and continental plates come together, geologists believe the continental crust buckles. On the surface, the buckling manifests itself as a rising mountain range, but beneath the crust, the buckling creates a heavy, high-density "root" that holds the crust down like an anchor, says Garzione. Conventional tectonic theory says that convection of the fluid mantle deep in the Earth slowly erodes this heavy root like a stream wearing down a rock, allowing mountains to gradually rise as the crust shortens and thickens.

 

However, according to Garzione, the delamination theory suggests that instead of eroding slowly away, the root heats up and oozes downward like a drop of molasses until it abruptly breaks free and sinks into the hot fluid mantle. The mountains above, suddenly free of the weight of the blob, would rush upward and, in the case of the Andes, lift from a height of less than two kilometers to about four kilometers in less than 4 million years.

 

Some of the broader implications of rapidly-rising mountain ranges are their effect on regional climate and evolution, says Garzione. She is currently working with paleontologists, Darin A. Croft, assistant professor of anatomy at Case Western Reserve University, and Bruce MacFadden, vertebrate paleontology curator and professor at the University of Florida, to address some of the questions surrounding how a quick-rising mountain range might affect regional climate and faunal diversity in South America, in the late Miocene period when the Andes rose.

 

This research was funded by the National Science Foundation.

 

 

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On the surface, the buckling manifests itself as a rising mountain range, but beneath the crust, the buckling creates a heavy, high-density "root" that holds the crust down like an anchor, says Garzione.

 

Compare this with quran:

 

Mountains roots = pegs

 

78:6 Have We not made the earth as a cradle

7 and the mountains as pegs?

 

how dows pegs look like when they are rooted into the ground

 

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So pegs are like roots in the ground, exactly what quran says

 

 

وَأَلْقَىٰ فِي الْأَرْضِ رَوَاسِيَ أَنْ تَمِيدَ بِكُمْ وَأَنْهَارًا وَسُبُلًا لَعَلَّكُمْ تَهْتَدُونَِ

Waalqa fee alardi rawasiya an tameeda bikum waanharan wasubulan laAAallakum tahtadoona

 

16:15 And He(God) placed mountains as anchors in the earth so that it may not shake along with you, and streams and roads for you to find course.

 

 

Rawasy

Arabic (رواسي) "mountains, at anchor, stable, fixed"

 

http://folkname.com/name/29777/Rawasy

 

from translator website

 

رواسي would describe "anchors".....

 

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to...7-marinas.html

 

 

So we see that there is 3 scientific miracles in two verses

 

1. mountains are rooted like pegs

2. Mountain's peg/root is like anchor

3. It holds earth crust down , so it not shake or moves

 

 

who could know these stuff in 6th century?? this is further proof that Quran is from God and not humans

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THE QURAN IS THE WORD OF GOD AND AN UNDENIABLE PROOF FOR MUHAMMAD’S PROPHETHOOD

The Quran is completely different from all the other books in the world

When we study the Quran even superficially from the viewpoint of its wording, styles, and meaning, we will certainly conclude that it is completely different from all the other books in the world. So, in rank and worth it is either below all of them-even Satan cannot claim this, nor does he conceive of it-or above them. Since it is above all of them, it must be the Word of God.

The Quran, which he brought, has challenged all mankind with all their literary geniuses and scientists, from the first day of its revelation to the Last Day, to produce a like of it or even a single chapter of it

The Quran openly declares:

 

You (O Muhammad) was not a reader of any Scripture before it, nor did you write (such a Scripture) with your right hand, for then those who follow falsehood might (have a right) to doubt it. (al-Ankabut, 29.48)

 

It is an established, undeniable fact that the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings, was unlettered. Whereas the Quran, which he brought, has challenged all mankind with all their literary geniuses and scientists, from the first day of its revelation to the Last Day, to produce a like of it or even a single chapter of it:

 

If you are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down onto Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a chapter of the like thereof, and call your witnesses, supporters, who are apart from God, if you are truthful. (al-Baqara, 2.23)

 

Mankind have since been unable to produce a like of only one of its chapters, including, of course, its shortest ones like sura al-Ikhlas or sura al-Kawthar; those who have ventured to do that have all laid themselves open to ridicule. This is a clear proof for the Divine authorship of the Quran.

The Quran was revealed in 23 years, yet there are not any contradictory points in it

The revelation of the Quran lasted 23 years. It is inconceivable that any book written by a mortal being in 23 years, one which is a book of Divine truths, metaphysics, religious beliefs and worship, prayer, law and morality, a book fully describing the other life, a book of psychology, sociology, epistemology, and history, and a book containing scientific facts and the principles of a happy life, does not have any contradictory points. Whereas, the Quran openly declares that it has no contradictions at all and therefore is a Divine Book:

 

Will they not then ponder on the Quran? If it had been from other than God they would have found therein much contradiction and incongruity. (al-Nisa’, 4.82)

 

The Qur’an is beyond compare from the viewpoint of its styles and eloquence

The Quran is beyond compare from the viewpoint of its styles and eloquence. All the sentences, words and even letters used in the Quran form such a miraculous harmony that, with respect to rhythm, music, and even geometric proportions and mathematical measures, and with respect to how many times each is used in the whole of the Quran, each is in the exact place it must be and interwoven and interrelated with others. The literary masterpiece of no one, including the sayings of the Prophet himself, upon him be peace and blessings, cannot compete with the Quran.

Prophet Muhammad was unlettered and no one had heard him say even a couple of poetry. However, the Quran also challenged the known experts in poetry and oratory and forced them to surrender

In the period when the Quran was revealed, in addition to eloquence, poetry and oratory enjoyed great prestige in the Arabian peninsula. They used to hold poetry competitions and the poems of the winners write in gold and hang on the wall of the Ka‘ba. The Prophet Muhammad was, as everybody knows, unlettered and no one had heard him say even a couple of poetry. However, the Quran also challenged the known experts in these fields and forced them to surrender. When those who persisted in unbelief heard the Quran, they were captivated by it. Nevertheless, in order to prevent the spread of Islam, they labeled it as something magical and advised people not to listen to it. But when those, like Hansa and Lebid, who believed in the Quran, gave up inventing poetry after the Quran’s revelation in respect for and awe of its styles and eloquence, the unbelievers had to confess: ‘If we call it a piece of poetry, it is not. If we designate it a piece of rhymed prose, it is not. If we describe it as the word of a soothsayer, it is not.’ At times, they could not help listening to the Prophet’s recitation secretly at night but they could not overcome their arrogance and so believe in its Divine origin.

Arabic became so rich through the Quran and attained such a high level that it developed as the language of the most magnificent civilization of world history with all its scientific, religious, metaphysical, literary, economic, juridical, social and political aspects

Despite the high level poetry reached at that time, the vocabulary of Arabic was not as advanced as the same degree. It was difficult, even impossible, to express in it metaphysical ideas or scientific, religious and philosophical concepts. Restricted to the words and expressions to explain the thoughts and feelings of desert men and the simple life they led, this language became so rich through the Qur’an and attained such a high level that it developed as the language of the most magnificent civilization of world history with all its scientific, religious, metaphysical, literary, economic, juridical, social and political aspects. It is impossible for an unlettered one to prepare the ground for and give way to such a philological revolution unparalleled in human history.

Despite its apparent simplicity, the Quran has such depths of meaning that everyone from the commonest of people to the most high-ranking scholar, scientist and literary man, finds his share in it

Despite its apparent simplicity, the Quran has such depths of meaning that everyone from the commonest of people to the most high-ranking scholar, scientist and literary man, finds his share in it. The Quran is such a book that it illuminates the ways of both poets, musicians and orators, sociologists, psychologists, scientists, economists and jurists. Also, the founders of all the true spiritual orders and the schools of law and conduct found in it the principles of their orders and schools. The Quran has shown everybody the ways to solve their problems. It also satisfies everyone in his spiritual quests. Is there another book of the same character, quality and level next to the Quran?

No one has ever been heard to be bored with the recitation of the Quran

However beautiful and interesting, we can read a book at most two or three times and then are bored with it. However, no one has ever been heard to be bored with the recitation of the Quran. Hundreds of millions of Muslims recite portions from it in their five daily prayers and most of them recite it from beginning to end at least once a year. There have been hundreds of thousands of people reciting it from the beginning to the end once or twice or even three times a month. The more frequently one recites it, the more one benefits from it and the more desire one feels to recite it. One never gets tired of it, its wording, meaning and content, nor does the Quran lose anything of its originality and freshness. As time passes, it breathes into minds and souls new truths and meanings, thus increasing them in activity and liveliness.

The Quran describes man with all his physical and spiritual aspects and contains principles to solve all the problems that may appear at any time and in any place concerning all the social, economic, juridical, political and administrative fields of life. Furthermore, it satisfies both the mind and spirit at the same time and guarantees happiness in both worlds.

However great a genius one may be, it is impossible for one to establish rules to solve all kinds of problems that mankind may encounter until the Last Day. Even the best of systems that do not originate in the Quran or the Divine Revelation cannot last without undergoing revisions at least every 50 years. More important than this, none of those systems can promise man eternal happiness; the principles of all of them are restricted to the worldly life, which is transient and infinitely short when compared to the afterlife. By contrast, none of the principles which the Quran laid down centuries ago has become outmoded and worn-out with the passage of time, nor do they have any defects or shortcomings. For example, the Quran enjoins that wealth should not become a means of prosperity circulated only among the rich (al-Hashr, 59.7); that government offices should be entrusted to competent persons qualified for them and absolute justice should be the rule in public administration and judging between people (al-Nisa’, 4.58), and it lays down that a man has only that for which he makes effort (al-Najm, 53.39) and that whoever kills a human being unjustly is as if he had killed all mankind (al-Ma’ida, 5.32). All such eternal, golden principles and many others like the prohibition of usury, gambling, alcohol and all kinds of illicit intercourse, and the injunctions with respect to praying, fasting, alms-giving and good conduct-principles strengthened through love and fear of God and through the promise of an eternal, happy life and fear of the eternal punishment of Hell-constitute another undeniable proof for the Divine authorship of the Quran.

The Quran unveils the mystery of man, creation and the universe

Also, the Qur’an unveils the mystery of man, creation and the universe. These three creatures of God, that is, man, the Qur’an and the universe, are the three ‘books’ which make the Creator known to us. They are the three versions or expressions of the same truth. Therefore, the One Who has created man and the universe is He Who has revealed the Qur’an.

The Qur’an is the embodiment of Muhammad in words or Muhammad is the embodiment of the Qur’an in belief and conduct

You cannot find one who does exactly what he tells others to do or one whose work exactly reflects himself. However, the Qur’an is exactly identical with the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings, who received it from God and designed his life according to it. It may be said that the Qur’an is the embodiment of Muhammad in words or Muhammad is the embodiment of the Qur’an in belief and conduct. They are the two expressions of the same truth. When asked about the conduct of Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings, ‘A’isha Siddiqa answered: ‘Don’t you read the Qur’an? The conduct of Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings, consisted in the Qur’an.’ This clearly shows that both the Qur’an and Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings, are the works of God Almighty.

Even though revealed in parts on certain occasions, the Qur’an is equally universal and objective where it deals with particular issues as it is exact and precise where it deals with universal matters

A writer usually writes under the influence of the conditions surrounding him. It is almost impossible to find a writer, whether he be a realist or idealist or even a science-fiction writer, who can write completely detached from the conditions surrounding him. By contrast, even though revealed in parts on certain occasions, the Qur’an is equally universal and objective where it deals with particular issues as it is exact and precise where it deals with universal matters. It uses precise expressions even while describing the beginning of creation and end of time and the creation of man and his future life in the other world. Also, just as it sometimes draws universal conclusions from particular events, so too it sometimes goes from universal principles to particular events. This is typical of the Qur’anic style, which is impossible to find in any human work and is, therefore, another sign of its Divine origin.

The Qur’an contains at least the principles of all the branches of knowledge either in summary or detail and not even a single piece of the knowledge it contains has ever been contradicted.

There has been no one in human history who has written books accurate to the same degree on both religion and law and sociology and psychology and eschatology and morality and history and literature and so on. However, the Qur’an contains at least the principles of all the branches of knowledge either in summary or detail and not even a single piece of the knowledge it contains has ever been contradicted. Must this not be enough for one unprejudiced to acknowledge its Divine origin?

“As time passes, the Qur’an grows ever younger.”

Which writer can claim that whatever he writes is absolutely correct and cannot be contradicted until the Last Day? At a time when the conclusions of science soon become ‘outmoded’ and worn-out and even the previous Divine Scriptures such as the Torah and Gospels undergo continuous alterations-even a superficial study of the issues of the Bible published in different times and in different languages will be enough to see the great alterations it has undergone-the truths of the Qur’an retain their freshness or, in the words of Said Nursi, ‘as time passes, the Qur’an grows ever younger.’ Despite all the efforts to find mistakes and contradictions in it exerted since the beginning of its revelation, it has remained unchanged and displayed its uniqueness, conquering every day new hearts and its hidden unlimited treasures being discovered one by one or growing to full bloom like a heavenly rose with countless petals.

The Qur’an addresses and legislates for all in all times

However knowledgeable you are and if you are famous for your truthfulness, can you speak on behalf of the president, the prime minister and all of the ministers, and also on behalf of the associations of literary men, lawyers and craftsmen, and the board of university lecturers and scientists? If you can, can you claim that you represented them all as perfectly as each would want you to? If you can, can you legislate for all the affairs of the country? This is just what the Prophet achieved through the Qur’an. Now, how can you claim that an unlettered one, who had had nothing to do with any such affairs until his fortieth year, achieved this without Divine inspiration and support?

If Prophet Muhammad had written the Qur’an by himself, he should never have mentioned some incidents concerning him.

However slight, there are some admonitions for the Prophet in the Qur’an.

 

No one, especially if that one claims Prophethood, mentions a grave slander against his wife in the book he writes by himself. Whereas, the Qur’an gives an important place to the slander hypocrites uttered against ‘A’isha, the Prophet’s wife.

In order to show practically that Islam does not allow any racial discrimination and that superiority is only by piety and righteousness, not by birth, color, race, wealth or position, the Prophet married Zaynab, a noble woman from the Hashimites, to Zayd, an emancipated black slave. However, verses revealed later ordered that, in order to put an end to an established false tradition-namely, neither adoption nor any other way of declaring someone a son can create a legal relationship comparable to the relationship of children and natural parents, and there is no difficulty and sin for believers in marriage with the divorced wives of those whom they once adopted as sons-the Prophet should marry Zaynab. This marriage was very difficult for God’s Messenger to enter into, but since it was ordered by God, he had no way out other than fulfilling it. As ‘A’isha would later say, if the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, would have concealed something of the Qur’an, he would have concealed this order and would not have married Zaynab. Also, if he had written the Qur’an by himself, he would never have mentioned this incident.

Abu Talib, the Prophet’s uncle to whose safeguarding ‘Abd al-Muttalib entrusted him, undertook the Prophet’s maintenance when he was yet eight years old and, after his declaration of Prophethood, protected him against the Quraysh for ten years. The Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, loved his uncle very deeply and desired his conversion very much. However, a verse came and admonished the Prophet against this desire of his which nearly drove him to death: You guide not whom you love, but God guides whom He wills. He is best aware of those who are guided (al-Qasas, 28.56). What would have prevented the Prophet, if he were the author of the Qur’an, from falsely declaring that his uncle had accepted Islam?

 

There are answers to many such questions in the Quran that one who does not have an all-encompassing knowledge could not have answered them.

There are many verses in the Quran beginning with ‘They ask you’ and continue with ‘Say (in answer)’. These verses were revealed to answer the questions put to the Prophet by Muslims and non-Muslims, including especially the Jews of Madina. The questions asked were about lawful or unlawful things, the distribution of war spoils, the mansions of the moon, the Judgment Day, Dhu’l-Qarnayn (one of the ancient kings who made great conquests in Asia and Africa), the spirit and so on. One who does not have an all-encompassing knowledge cannot answer such questions. But the answers given by the unlettered Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, satisfied everybody and no one could object to him. This shows that he was taught by God, the All-Knowing.

To claim that Muhammad-God forbid such a thought!- invented the Quran means that Muhammad, who was known as Muhammad the Trustworthy, was-we beg forgiveness for having to narrate such a false claim-the greatest liar and cheat history has ever known.

As was explained earlier, the Prophet lived a very austere life and never pursued any worldly gains or aims like fame, rulership, wealth and having beautiful women. Furthermore, he had to resist hardships and persecutions of the severest kind. To claim that Muhammad-God forbid such a thought!- invented the Quran means that Muhammad, who was known as Muhammad the Trustworthy, was-we beg forgiveness for having to narrate such a false claim- the greatest liar and cheat history has ever known. What might have caused him to falsely claim Prophethood despite the severest of deprivations and persecutions? To accuse the Prophet Muhammad of falsely claiming Prophethood and attribute the Quran to him, is the most groundless and the most degrading and meanest of accusations.

Although other Prophets like Moses and Jesus are mentioned many times in the Quran despite the Jews’ and Christians’ denial of Muhammad, we come across the name Muhammad only four times

The Prophet Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings, saw much resistance from the Jews and Christians. He had to fight against the Jews of Madina several times and expel them from the city. Despite this, the Quran mentions the Prophet Moses, the Prophet sent to the israelites, about 500 times, while the name of Muhammad is mentioned in the Quran only four times. The Quran also mentions the Prophet Jesus many times. Is it conceivable that one who falsely claims Prophethood ever mentions the Prophets of the peoples who show him great hostility?

The Quran’s mention of previous Prophets, including especially Moses and Jesus, upon them be peace, and the Christians’ and Jews’ denial of Muhammad’s Prophethood and the Divine authorship of the Quran, is an undeniable proof of the Prophethood of Muhammad and the Divine authorship of the Quran and that the Christians’ and Jews’ denial comes from purely false reasons like jealousy, prejudice and selfishness.

It is another argument for the Divine authorship of the Quran that it refers to certain facts of creation recently established by modern scientific methods

It is another argument for the Divine authorship of the Quran that it refers to certain facts of creation recently established by modern scientific methods. How, except on account of its Divine authorship, is it possible for the Quran to be literally true on matters of which people had not the least inkling at the time when it was revealed? For example, if the Quran were not a Divine Revelation, would it have been possible for it to contain such a verse as this: Do not the unbelievers realize that the heavens and the earth were one unit of creation before we split them asunder? (al-Anbiya’, 21.20).

Whether the Quran really does refer, explicitly or implicitly, to the kinds of facts the sciences deal with, and the relationship between the Quran and modern sciences, are matters of considerable controversy among Muslim intellectuals. We should therefore treat the subject at length.

Conclusion

All of the six sides or aspects of the Quran are luminous and demonstrate its truth. From below, it is supported upon the pillars of proofs and evidences (rational, scientific, historical, and those pertaining to conscience and sound judgment, and so on); above it, are gleams of the seal of miraculousness: it aims at happiness in both worlds; and behind it are, another point of support, the truths of the Divine Revelation. To its right is the unanimous confirmation of guided reasons based on proofs; and to its left are the intellectual and spiritual contentment of those with sound heart and conscience, and their sincere attachment and submission to it. All these together bear witness that the Quran is an absolutely formidable, extraordinary and unconquerable stronghold which the hand of heaven established on the earth, and set their seal of admission of it as a faultless, true Word of God. The Administrator of the universe, Who always acts in a way to manifest unity, protect virtuousness and goodness, and extirpate falsehood and slander, has given the Quran the most acceptable, high and dominant rank of respect and success, and thereby confirmed its truth.

Also, the person who is the interpreter of the Quran, upon him be peace and blessings, believed in it and respected it more than anything and anybody else. He went into a sleep-like state during the revelation of its verses and confirmed and preached all of its decrees and commandments with utmost conviction and without exhibiting any deception and error to eyes wide open always to catch him, and without anything to shake him. Despite being unlettered, having founded on the Quran, he gave, without hesitation, news and information about the past and future and about the facts of creation and operation of the universe. Other sayings of his do not resemble the Quran and are inferior to it in certain respects. All this together proves that the Quran is the true, heavenly and blessed Word of that person’s Merciful Creator.

The fifth of mankind or even the majority of them in certain cases have always had an ecstatic and religious devotion to the Quran and listened to it lovingly and in adoration of truth, and as is testified to by numerous observations, signs, and events, as moths fly round a light, angels, believing jinn and other spirit beings gather together around it during its recitation. This also confirms that the Quran is accepted by almost all the beings in the universe and is of the highest rank.

Also, all the groups of mankind with different levels of understanding and learning, from the commonest to the most intelligent and learned, derive their share from the teaching of the Quran, and all the greatest scholars in Islamic sciences such as jurisprudence, theology, and religious methodology, have found in the Quran the answers to all of their questions and based their conclusions upon it. This is another evidence that the Quran is the source of truths, the mine of all true knowledge.

Furthermore, although among the unbelieving Arab literary men those who have been the most advanced in literature, have always felt much need to dispute with the Quran, they have been unable to do that even in eloquence, which is only one of the seven major aspects of the Quran’s miraculousness, and have not dared to produce the like of even one of its suras. The others, geniuses of learning and eloquence, who by disputing with it in eloquence have sought fame, have been compelled to refrain from doing so. This clearly shows that the Quran is a miracle, beyond the capacity of mankind.

Indeed, in order to judge the value, sublimity, and eloquence of a word it is asked: ‘Who has spoken it? To whom has it been spoken? Why has it been spoken?’ When considered from the perspective of these questions, again the Quran has no equal. For the Quran is the Word of the Lord of all beings and the Speech of the Creator of the whole of the universe which bears no signs to suggest that it is a book of imitation, one fabricated by someone and then falsely attributed to God. God revealed the Quran to the one whom He chose as the representative of all the creatures, one who is His most famous and renowned addressee, and the extent and strength of whose faith embraced the comprehensive religion of Islam and caused its owner to rise to the rank of the distance of two bows’ length, and being honored with direct conversation with the Eternally Besought-of-All, after which he turned back to the world to convey to people the principles of happiness in both worlds. The Quran explains the principles of happiness in both worlds and the results of, and the Divine purpose in, the creation of the universe, and expounds the Prophet’s most comprehensive faith, which sustains all the truths of Islam: it shows and describes the huge universe like a map or a clock or a house and teaches about the Artist Who made it. Certainly it is impossible to produce a like of it or to match the degree of its eloquence.

In addition, numerous collections of books on the interpretation of the Quran, some of which cover as many as forty or even seventy volumes-written by meticulous scholars of the highest intelligence and learning-expound with proofs countless virtues of the Quran and its subtleties and mysteries, and disclose and affirm its numerous predictions. Among them, the one hundred and thirty treatises of the Risale-i Nur explain each virtue and subtlety of the Quran, such as its allusions to the scientific and technical wonders of modern civilization like trains and aircrafts and electricity, and its indirect references to future victories of Muslims and the history of the Companions after the Prophet, and the meaningful and mysterious design of its letters. All this means setting a seal on the fact that the Quran is a miracle with no equals and the Word of the Knower of the Unseen, which is the tongue of the world of the Unseen in this visible world of corporeality.

It is because of such virtues of the Quran that its magnificent spiritual dominion and its majestic sacred rule has been continuing for centuries to illuminate the earth and the ages, time and space, and more and more people have been embracing it with perfect respect. It is because of the same virtues, that each letter of the Quran yields at least the merits, ten rewards, and ten fruits pertaining to the eternal world, and that the letters of certain verses and suras, each give hundreds or even thousands of merits, and when recited on certain blessed occasions, the light and merits of each of its letters multiply by tens or hundreds. The world-traveler came to understand this and said to himself: ‘Based on the consensus of its lights and mysteries, and the concord of its fruits and results, this Quran, miraculous in every respect, proves and testifies to the existence, unity, attributes, and Names of a single Necessarily Existent One in such a manner that the testimonies of innumerable believers have their sources from that testimony.’

In a brief reference to the instruction which that traveler has taken from the Quran about faith and the Unity of God, we say:

There is no god but God-the Necessarily Existent One, the One, the Single-the necessity of Whose existence in His Oneness the Quran of miraculous exposition decisively proves, which is accepted and sought for by the species of angels, human beings and jinn; all of whose verses are recited in every minute with perfect respect by the tongues of millions of human beings; whose sacred rule in the regions of the earth and the realms of space and on the faces of ages and time; whose enlightened spiritual dominion has prevailed with perfect splendor over half of the globe and a fifth of humankind for fourteen centuries... Likewise, with the consensus of its heavenly and sacred suras, and the agreement of its luminous Divine verses, and the correspondence of its mysteries and lights, and the concord of its truths, and results, it manifestly attests, and is a clear proof of, this same truth.

 

 

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Hi Everyone,

 

I don’t intend to further the dialogue on this thread as we can all agree this thread has been exhausted. I just wanted to share with my friends my wife gave birth to a baby boy, we named him John Paul after the great Pope John Paul II.

 

Through careful prayer, meditation and discussions I have made the firm decision to remain a Christian. I’ve also made the firm decision never to debate another religion again, only ask questions and answer questions (if anyone has any questions about Christianity). Still I want to thank my Muslim friends that have shown charity, respect and have answered my questions etc. you’ve been very helpful in providing insight into Islam.

 

Take care everyone and God bless,

 

Hi Augustine! You are indeed a wise man. The world is full of propagandists who are on the mission to throw dirt on Islam but I and most of the Muslims (I am sure) would really appreciate that you respect Islam. If you would respect the other religions, you would surely have right to have respect.

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Salaam Brother! I am here and i have got the options to post in this forum. Hope you have recognized me!! :)

 

alaikom selam,

 

yes brother, i have recognised you :D welcome to a free world...

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Logical Explanation Why Islam is The Only True Religion

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Miracles of Islamic martyr

 

Martyrs smell like parfume, and their blood also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMyzxM4GybY

 

do you know why i know that this is true, beacuse i have heard story from muslim commander in my contry about such miracles, that muslim martyrs have fragnance in their blood, as sign of their martyrdoom.

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Miracles of Islamic martyr

 

Martyrs smell like parfume, and their blood also

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMyzxM4GybY[/media]

 

do you know why i know that this is true, beacuse i have heard story from muslim commander in my contry about such miracles, that muslim martyrs have fragnance in their blood, as sign of their martyrdoom.

 

this is great brother! I wish to smell this fragrance.

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Brother andalusi! Tell me one thing as i want an answer of this. Why these non-Muslim people try to hit Islam and Muslims by abuse wordings when Muslims are not the ones who start debate on anything. Why they consistently try to give Islam a bad reputation. Is it because of the truth that Islam offers or because of the Mujahideen who are dragged into the fight by US and allies.

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Brother andalusi! Tell me one thing as i want an answer of this. Why these non-Muslim people try to hit Islam and Muslims by abuse wordings when Muslims are not the ones who start debate on anything. Why they consistently try to give Islam a bad reputation. Is it because of the truth that Islam offers or because of the Mujahideen who are dragged into the fight by US and allies.

 

not beacuse of Mujahedeen , Allah has allready answered that question in quran

 

God says:

6:121....And the devils they inspire their supporters to argue with you;

 

and who are the supporters of Satan

 

God answers that also:

 

26:221 Should I tell you on whom the devils descend?

222 They come down to every lying sinner

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