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"So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds."

 

Can someone explain? It sounds like Muhammad (pbuh) is commanding people to kill the disbelievers.

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Can someone explain? It sounds like Muhammad (pbuh) is commanding people to kill the disbelievers.

Your analysis is correct. I thought this kind of dogma in Islam was well known?

 

I'm interested to see what other members of the forum have to say on the subject...

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47. Surah Muhammad (The Praised One)

 

Name

 

The Surah derives its name from the sentence wa amanu bi-ma nuzzila ala Muhammad-in of verse 2, thereby implying that it is the Surah in which the holy name of Muhammad (upon wham be Allah's peace and blessings) has occurred. Besides, it has another well known name "al-Qital" also, which is derived from the sentence wa dhukira fi-hal-qital of verse 20.

 

Period of Revelation

 

The contents of this Surah testify that it was sent down after the hijrah at Madinah at the time when the fighting had been enjoined, though active fighting had not yet been undertaken. Detailed arguments in support of this view have been given in E. N. 8 below.

 

Historical Background

 

The conditions at the time when this Surah was sent down were such that the Muslims were being made the target of persecution and tyranny in Makkah in particular and in Arabia in general, and life had become miserable for them. Although the Muslims had emigrated to the haven of Madinah from every side, the disbelieving Quraish were not prepared to leave them alone and let them live in peace even there. Thus, the small settlement of Madinah was hemmed in by the enemy, who was bent upon exterminating it completely. The only alternative left with the Muslims were that either they should surrender to the forces of ignorance, giving up their mission of preaching the true Faith, or even following it in their private lives, or should rise to wage a war at the cost of their lives to settle finally and for ever whether Islam would stay in Arabia or the creed of ignorance. On this occasion Allah showed the Muslims the same way of resolution and will, which is the only way for the true believers. He first permitted them to fight in Surah Al Hajj 39 and then enjoined fighting in Al Baqarah 190. But at that time everyone knew fully well what it meant to wage a war in those conditions. There were only a handful of Muslims in Madinah, who could not muster even a thousand soldiers; yet they were being urged to take up the sword and clash against the pagan forces of the whole of Arabia. Then the kind of the weapons needed to equip its soldiers for war could hardly be afforded by the town in which hundreds of emigrants were still homeless and unsettled even by resort to starving its members at a time when it had been boycotted economically by the Arabs on all sides.

 

Theme and Subject Matter

 

Such were the conditions when this Surah was revealed. Its theme is to prepare the believers for war and to give them preliminary instructions in this regard. That is why it has also been entitled al-Qital. It deals with the following topics:

 

At the outset it is said that of the two groups confronting each other at this time, one has refused to accept the Truth and has become an obstruction for others on the way of Allah, while the other group has accepted the Truth which had been sent down by Allah to His servant, Muhammad (upon whom be Allah's peace and blessings). Now, Allah's final decision is that He has rendered fruitless and vain all the works of the former group and set right the condition and affairs of the latter group.

 

After this, the Muslims have been given the initial war instructions they have been reassured of Allah's help and guidance: they have been given hope for the best rewards on offering sacrifices in the cause of Allah and they have been assured that their struggle in the cause of the Truth will not go to waste, but they will be abundantly rewarded both in this world and in the Hereafter.

 

Furthermore, about the disbelievers it has been said that they are deprived of Allah's support and guidance: none of their designs will succeed in their conflict with the believers, and they will meet a most evil fate both in this world and in the Hereafter. They thought they had achieved a great success by driving the Prophet of Allah out of Makkah, but in fact by this they had hastened their own doom.

 

After this, the discourse turns to the hypocrites, who were posing to be sincere Muslims before the command to fight was sent down, but were confounded when this command actually came down, and began to conspire with the disbelievers in order to save themselves from the hazards of war. They have been plainly warned to the effect that no act and deed is acceptable to Allah of those who adopt hypocrisy with regard to Him and His Prophet. There, the basic issue against which all those who profess the Faith are being tried is whether one is on the side of the Truth or Falsehood, whether one's sympathies are with Islam and the Muslims or with disbelief and the disbelievers, whether one keeps one's own self and interests dearer or the Truth which one professes to believe in and follow. One who fails in this test is not at all a believer; his Prayer and his Fasting and his discharging of the zakat deserve no reward from Allah.

 

Then the Muslims have been exhorted not to lose heart for being small in numbers and ill equipped as against the great strength of the disbelievers: they should not show weakness by offering peace to them, which might still further embolden them against Islam and the Muslims, but they should come out with trust in Allah and clash with the mighty forces of disbelief. Allah is with the Muslims: they alone shall triumph; and the might of disbelief will be humbled and vanquished.

 

In conclusion, the Muslims have been invited to spend their wealth in the cause of Allah. Although at that time they were economically very weak, the problem that they confronted was the very survival of Islam and the Muslims. The importance and delicacy of the problem demanded that the Muslims should not only risk their lives for safeguarding themselves and their Faith from the dominance of disbelief and for exalting Allah's Religion but should also expend their economic resources as far as possible in the preparations for war. Therefore, they were clearly warned to the effect. Anyone who adopted a niggardly attitude at the time, would not, in fact, harm Allah at all, but would result in his own destruction, for Allah does not stand in need of help from men. If one group of men shirked offering sacrifices in the cause of His Religion, Allah would remove it and bring another group in its place.

 

The Tafsir

 

Read the entire Tafsir - The Tafsir. This is when the oppressed stood up for themselves.

 

Remember the context of the Quran, it's not like other holy books. This was most likely revealed right before a big battle where they would have no choice, so Allah was revealing the way to victory for them.

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The message above is what members on another Islamic Forum said to me.

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Whatever the timing of the revelation (of which I'm guessing we will never know) the Qur'an says you should to kill infidels. It doesn't seem to give much in the way of context so it's open to interpretation.[1]

 

Fancy killing an infidel? Go for it; the Qur'an says it's ok.

 

Maybe that's what happened in Norway today?

 

[1] I remain somewhat mystified that a book that is perfect, infallible, error/contradiction free and the word of the creator of the universe can be open to interpretation.

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"So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds."

 

Can someone explain? It sounds like Muhammad (pbuh) is commanding people to kill the disbelievers.

 

Firstly, these are the words of Allah not Muhammad(saw). Secondly,

So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle][using large font size is not allowed]
.. I wonder what the US army commanders tell their soldiers when they go to battle? Give out flowers? No, its shoot to kill. So get a grip.

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As-salamu alaikum

 

I think the verse is pretty straighforward. The context is pretty straightforward. It is talking about war. When you meet an enemy in battle you kill them, i.e. strike their necks. Then the verse continues on saying that after the war has ceased you can act graciously towards the prisoners of war who obviously weren't killed during the course of the battle, i.e. set them free for no ransom at all, or set them free for a ransom. Pretty simple.

 

But the verses can not be used to support a "fancy killing a non-Muslim, go for it"-approach. Why? Because the context of the verses are clear. They talk about warfare and in warfare you kill people. It was never understood by the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) nor his Companions (ra) to mean "fancy killing a non-Muslim, go for it". Historically the Prophet (pbuh) and the Companions (ra) were in a position of power to go for an all-out slaughter much like the Mongols did, but they didn't. Why? Because the verses were understood in a clear context and weren't understood to mean frivolous killing of unbelievers.

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Maybe that's what happened in Norway today?

 

The man responsible for the massacre in Norway was a member of a Swedish nazi forum which encourages attacks on government buildings.

It was also revealed by local police that he had extreme right wing views who hated Muslims.

 

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Maybe you should eat your words.

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Maybe you should eat your words.

Word fully eaten. Although I did say "Maybe that's what happened in Norway". It will probably surprise you to hear I'm actually pleased these were not Islamic terrorist attacks.

 

On the point about it being ok to kill infidels; full authority and justification for murder is printed in black and white in the Qur'an. All you have to do is believe you are in a state of war.

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On the point about it being ok to kill infidels; full authority and justification for murder is printed in black and white in the Qur'an. All you have to do is believe you are in a state of war.

 

The verses were always understood to refer to combatants. People who are not fighting you (on the battlefield) can't be killed, nor can children, women and the elderly be killed. That it is how it was understood by the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions (ra). Killing an enemy combatant is not murder.

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The verses were always understood to refer to combatants. People who are not fighting you (on the battlefield) can't be killed, nor can children, women and the elderly be killed. That it is how it was understood by the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions (ra). Killing an enemy combatant is not murder.

 

War is war. Why should it be so? Does the Koran assume that there will always be war? Get over it! Dopes!.

 

Peace,

 

Ron

 

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Does the Koran assume that there will always be war?

 

No.

 

Peace,

 

And upon you

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Instead of us leaping to the conclusion that "Oh no, Islam encourages killing non-Muslims", let's look at the obvious wording of the verse, which makes it clear that the people addressed in it are enemy combatants.

 

Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah.s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.

 

1) The verse says "Until the war lays down its burdens". This verse clearly speaks of wartime. There is no "open to interpretation" here.

2) The verse also says "those who are slain in the Way of Allah". This verse also makes it clear that the war is actively fought by both sides.

3) Here's something most people missed: The verse does not say kill all of the enemy. It also says that the prisoners can either be treated with generosity (by releasing them) or ransomed.

 

And lastly, this verse was revealed during the battle of Badr. Nothing else to argue here.

 

Salam.

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Nice reply Redeem.

 

Rightly or wrongly, it doesn't seem very hard for extremists to find justification within the Qur'an to kill. 9/11 and 7/7 being two prime examples.

 

It would be easy to suggest that the individuals perpetrating these crimes were illiterate, uneducated and from impoverished backgrounds but this was not the case.

 

How can this be that they can so badly misunderstand and interpret the Qur'an?

 

Salam.

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War is war. Why should it be so? Does the Koran assume that there will always be war? Get over it! Dopes!.

 

Peace,

 

Ron

 

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My apolgies for using the word 'dopes'. I wasn't referring anyone in particular. It's just that this obsession with the state of the world over a thousand years ago is starting to get to me.

Why can't we (collectively, us human beings) get out of bed each day and see the world anew with fresh eyes?

 

Regards,

 

Ron

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