the sad clown 3 Posted December 23, 2011 I was recently reading the wikipedia article on Bouazizi, and it said that there was a division of opinion regarding him. I'll quote the section: Since suicide is forbidden in Islam, Bouazizi's self-immolation created controversy among scholarly Muslim circles. While al-Azhar, the most prestigious religious institution in the Sunni Muslim world, issued a fatwa ("directive") stating "suicide violates Islam even when it is carried out as a social or political protest," influential Egyptian cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi spoke sympathetically of Bouazizi. Does Islam condemn his action, and how do most Muslims view him and his action? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
al-amiyr 47 Posted December 24, 2011 the law of Islaam states that self killing is a sin without compromise. Only Allaah knows the intention of his actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the sad clown 3 Posted December 24, 2011 So Bouazizi is looked upon poorly in the Muslim community because of this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu Firdaws 1 Posted December 25, 2011 So Bouazizi is looked upon poorly in the Muslim community because of this? I wouldn't want to comment on the individual who carried out the act, but as brother al-amiyr mentioned suicide is forbidden in Islaam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the sad clown 3 Posted December 26, 2011 I wouldn't want to comment on the individual who carried out the act, but as brother al-amiyr mentioned suicide is forbidden in Islaam. Why do you not want to comment on Bouazizi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu Firdaws 1 Posted December 26, 2011 Why do you not want to comment on Bouazizi? I don't feel as if it's my place to say anything, and it's not going to make a difference anyway because he has returned to his Lord. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the sad clown 3 Posted December 26, 2011 I don't feel as if it's my place to say anything, and it's not going to make a difference anyway because he has returned to his Lord. Do mean pending the day of judgment or are you saying that he will probably still go to heaven even though he committed suicide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu Firdaws 1 Posted December 26, 2011 Do mean pending the day of judgment or are you saying that he will probably still go to heaven even though he committed suicide? I have absolutely no idea whether he will go to Heaven or Hell, as Muslims we don't say that such and such person is going to Hell or such and such person is going to Heaven -- Allaah knows best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the sad clown 3 Posted December 26, 2011 I thought it was interesting that his act was seen negatively by Muslims. I think he might be viewed more positively as an inspirational figure in the West. It seems that westerners are not getting a very good understanding about how Muslims view him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu Firdaws 1 Posted December 26, 2011 I thought it was interesting that his act was seen negatively by Muslims. I think he might be viewed more positively as an inspirational figure in the West. It seems that westerners are not getting a very good understanding about how Muslims view him. Well I'm not sure how true that is... you have to remember that the people protesting aren't necessarily the most religiously devout, so I do believe he had support from Tunisian protesters and perhaps other Arabs involved in protesting too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the sad clown 3 Posted December 26, 2011 Well I'm not sure how true that is... you have to remember that the people protesting aren't necessarily the most religiously devout, so I do believe he had support from Tunisian protesters and perhaps other Arabs involved in protesting too. Do you think the lack of religious devotion in the people leading these protests will have an effect on my question about the connection between (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=737621&hl="]the Arab Spring and a restored Caliphate[/url]? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu Firdaws 1 Posted December 26, 2011 Do you think the lack of religious devotion in the people leading these protests will have an effect on my question about the connection between (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=737621&hl="]the Arab Spring and a restored Caliphate[/url]? Well I don't want to say that the people protesting lack religious devotion, because I'm not there so I really don't know. As for the protests themselves... again I really don't know what to make of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites