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The US Marine Corps says it will investigate a video posted on the internet which appears to show US soldiers in Afghanistan urinating on corpses.

 

In a statement issued on Wednesday after the footage came to light, the corps said the matter would be fully investigated.

 

"While we have not yet verified the origin or authenticity of this video, the actions portrayed are not consistent with our core values and are not indicative of the character of the marines in our corps," the statement said.

 

John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, said: "Regardless of the circumstances or who is in the video, this is... egregious, disgusting behavior, unacceptable for anyone in uniform.

 

"It turned my stomach," he added.

 

The video, which was first posted on the Live Leak website, shows four men in military uniforms urinating on three bloodied bodies on the ground, apparently aware that they were being filmed.

 

One of them jokes: "Have a nice day, buddy." The other makes a lewd joke about a shower.

 

The multinational security force in Afghanistan, ISAF, as well as the country's government, strongly condemned the actions portrayed in the video.

 

'Deeply disturbed'

 

 

Rosiland Jordan discusses the video's content and context

 

"The government of Afghanistan is deeply disturbed by a video that shows American soldiers desecrating dead bodies of three Afghans," said a statement from Afghan President Hamid Karzai's office on Thursday.

 

"This act by American soldiers is simply inhuman and condemnable in the strongest possible terms.

 

"We expressly ask the US government to urgently investigate the video and apply the most severe punishment to anyone found guilty in this crime."

 

In a statement on Thursday, the NATO-led international coalition in Afghanistan called the actions depicted in the video "inexplicable and not in keeping with the high moral standards" it said were expected of co-alition forces.

 

It said the video appeared to show a "small group of U.S. individuals, who apparently are no longer serving in Afghanistan".

 

Lieutenant Colonel Jay Stout, a former US Marine Corps pilot, told Al Jazeera he found the incident "disturbing".

 

"I am disturbed. Look, marines kill to win, and sometimes they kill a lot and that's good, that's fine, that's war. But in victory we are trained to be compassionate, we are trained to be respectful and this incident was neither of those."

 

'Trained to spread horror'

 

In a statement, the Taliban said the incident was "against all international human rights" but "not the only example of the horrific actions that the Americans have done in Afghanistan".

 

"American soldiers are trained to spread horror and this is one of the examples," the Taliban said.

 

However, the group's statement added that the incident would not affect negotiations with the US after US officials said Washington would send an envoy to Afghanistan to prepare the ground for direct peace talks.

 

About 20,000 marines are deployed in Afghanistan, mostly in Kandahar and Helmand provinces in the south of the war-ravaged country.

 

The video could aggravate anti-US sentiment in Afghanistan after a decade of a war that has seen other cases of abuse.

 

The US military has been prosecuting soldiers from its army's 5th Stryker Brigade on charges of murdering unarmed Afghan civilians while deployed in 2010 in Kandahar province.

 

In that case, photographs published last March by two magazines - Der Spiegel and Rolling Stone - showed soldiers posing with the bloodied corpse of an Afghan boy they had just killed.

 

A Muslim civil rights group in the US condemned the alleged desecration of corpses in a letter to Leon Panetta, the US defence secretary.

 

"Any guilty parties must be punished to the full extent allowed by the Uniform Code of Military Justice and by relevant American laws," the Council on American-Islamic Relations said in the letter, a copy of which was sent to media organisations.

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A Marine official said Thursday that the four seen in the video were members of the 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marines, which returned to its home base in North Carolina last fall after a tour in Afghanistan. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because a criminal investigation is under way.

 

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a prominent Muslim civil rights and advocacy group, is condemning the video and the actions of those involved.

 

"I was just disgusted because personally, my father served in the United States Navy for over 27 years and I'm from a proud military family and it's very unbecoming of these soldiers to do something that would hurt the image of the United States around the world," said Edgar Hopida, Director of Public Relations at the Council on American-Islamic Relations' San Diego Chapter.

 

The Marine Corps has identified two of the four Marines in an Internet video that shows them urinating on the dead bodies of Taliban fighters in Afghanistan.

 

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Pamela Geller’s praise for the desecration of dead bodies is not “funny”

 

by Sheila Musaji

 

 

After a video surfaced on youtube of U.S. military personnel urinating on the dead bodies of Afghans, many individuals and organizations objected to such behavior.

 

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said such behavior is “entirely inappropriate for members of the United States military. I have seen the footage, and I find the behavior depicted in it utterly deplorable. I condemn it in the strongest possible terms. Those found to have engaged in such conduct will be held accountable to the fullest extent.”

 

Carsten Jacobson, a spokesman for Nato’s international security assistance force in Afghanistan said such an act was ‘despicable’ and ‘grossly against all the moral values the coalition forces stand for’.

 

Gen. Jim Amos, the Marine Corps commandant said “The behavior depicted in the video is wholly inconsistent with the high standards of conduct and warrior ethos that we have demonstrated throughout our history. Accordingly, late yesterday I requested that the Naval Criminal Investigative Service pull together a team of their very best agents and immediately assign them responsibility to thoroughly investigate every aspect of the filmed event.”

 

Sen. John McCain, a Navy veteran who fought and was held prisoner in the Vietnam War, said the incident “makes me so sad.” McCain, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, called the Marine Corps one of America’s strongest institutions and said its image has apparently been tarnished by “a handful of obviously undisciplined people.” “There should be an investigation, and these young people should be punished.”

 

Pentagon spokesman and Navy Capt. John Kirby said: “We are deeply troubled by the video. Whoever it is, and whatever the circumstances—which we know is under investigation—it is egregious behaviour and unacceptable for a member of the military.”

 

One of those organizations objecting to this barbaric behavior was CAIR. In a letter faxed to Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta, CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad wrote:

 

“We condemn this apparent desecration of the dead as a violation of our nation’s military regulations and of international laws of war prohibiting such disgusting and immoral actions.

 

“If verified as authentic, the video shows behavior that is totally unbecoming of American military personnel and that could ultimately endanger other soldiers and civilians.

 

“We trust that this disturbing incident will be promptly investigated in a transparent manner and that appropriate actions will be taken based on the results of that investigation. Any guilty parties must be punished to the full extent allowed by the Uniform Code of Military Justice and by relevant American laws.”

 

Pamela Geller wrote only about CAIR’s objections, and said that this was “siding with the jihadists against the US military” and called their objection an example of CAIR whipping “itself up into an Islamic frenzy”. During the course of her rant she said Here’s the thing. Hamas liars, CAIR, say [sic] jihad and pure Islam is “fringe,” “extremist.” So why do they CAIR about disrespecting the Taliban? According to CAIR lies, Taliban and jihadists do not represent Islam, they have “hijacked Islam”; so why would CAIR care about “respect”? CAIR calls these Marines immoral, but considers honor killings, clitorectomies, forced marriage, child marriage, polygamy, subjugation of women, slaughter of non-Muslims, Jew hatred moral? She closed with “I love these Marines. Perhaps this is the infidel interpretation of the Islamic ritual of washing and preparing the body for burial.”

 

Geller, unlike CAIR must have inside information and therefore, she doesn’t need any verification of authenticity. At this point, there has been no investigation. No one knows who the dead are, or whether or not they are Taliban. No one even knows if they were fighting the soldiers in the video, or if this is another case like that of the “kill team” who murdered Afghan civilians in cold blood, for sport, and then mutilated the bodies and took “trophies” of body parts. No one knows who the soldiers are, or if this is a genuine video.

 

Actually, contrary to the Islamophobes lies, you only have to read through this list of fatwas and statements by Muslim scholars condemning all sorts of violence, terrorism, beheadings, suicide terrorism, honor killings, clitorectomies, child marriage, anti-Semitism, holocaust denial, etc. to know that Muslims themselves strongly object to such behavior no matter who commits it. And, CAIR itself has condemned terrorism and other forms of sectarian and political violence.

 

CAIR and all decent Muslims say extremists are “fringe”. And, any Muslims who have participated in such behavior are not acting according to Islamic standards. Such behavior is to be condemned. I can’t even comprehend the mental gymnastics that a person would have to go through to advocate for and encourage the emulation of the worst behavior of extremists. Anyone, anywhere who desecrates the bodies of the dead is engaging in reprehensible behavior.

 

If it is found that this is a genuine video, and this incident actually happened, then any decent human being would find such behavior disgusting. And, it is clear from the statements above by many other individuals who don’t belong to CAIR, and are not Muslims, decent people find such behavior reprehensible. It would also seem that if Geller truly “loves” these young soldiers, then she would be concerned about their mental, emotional, and spiritual health.

 

A few of Geller’s readers comments show just what sorts of extremists find her site worthwhile: — I don’t care if they bury these murdering pigs in feces and blood! Kill ‘em all and let G*d sort ‘em out! — You CAIR ###### would really be going nuts if those brave Marines didn’t turn off that camera before they came back and took a #### on those goat-######ers. Burn up with rage! Do something crazy! We’re waiting for you to pop, one at a time! You death cult members in The States are living in front of a wall of eyes that never blink. And if you don’t behave it might soon be your day to wear the salty piss of the noble warriors who hose you down on behalf of a proud and grateful nation. — Ditto…..CAIR….Your days are numbered. The citizens of this nation have had about enough of your ####. It is clear you have not the slightest idea what we will, and can do when backed into a corner by sick fools such as yourselves. Your day of reckoning will come. God Bless our warriors and the horses they rode in on .... CAIR ... Piss-off. — Oh what a disgrace if such a despised and base race, which worships a misogynist pedophile demon, should be allowed to massacre a people which has the faith of omnipotent God! With what reproaches will the Lord overwhelm us if we do not promptly and fully aid those who are being brutalized and murdered because they profess the Jewish or Christian religion! Let those who have been accustomed unjustly to wage private warfare against other of the faithful now all unite and go against the Mohammedans in a Holy Crusade and end with total victory this war against monstrous evil which should have been begun and completed long ago. Let those who for too long a time have been dhimma, now again become knights. Let those who have been fighting in service of Mohammedans against their own Christian brothers and sisters and their own Jewish cousins now fight in a proper way against all the followers of the misogynist pedophile demon. Let those who have been wearing themselves out in both body and soul in vain attempt to win the dark hearts of the Mohammedans now labor for glorious honor against them. Behold! On the one side will be the completely destroyed Mohammedans, on the other the fierce and righteous protectors of humanity. On the one side will be the destroyed enemies of the Lord, on the other, his friends who will shout at all the Mohammedans as they destroy them, “It is the will of God! It is the will of God!! It is the will of God!!!” — Islam is a creed that people CHOOSE to follow. These sick mutts need to be urinated on. Defecated on too. Islam has utter contempt for others, we are just returning the favor. F&*K Islam. F^&K Mohammed. F#$K Muslims.

 

CAIR wrote a follow up press release titled Tea Party Speaker Says She ‘Loves’ Marines Who Desecrated Corpses to which Geller responded with an article titled Hamas-CAIR Attacks US Marines, Pamela Geller, and Atlas Readers in Defense of Jihadists in which she says Notoriously anti-American Hamas-CAIR has issued one of their priceless hate and fatwa-inducing missives attacking my very funny post: CAIR Condemns Alleged “Desecration” of Dead Jihadists by U.S. Marines in Afghanistan.”

 

What had CAIR said this time? The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today condemned remarks by Pamela Geller, the leader of an anti-Muslim hate group and a frequent speaker at Tea Party events, applauding the alleged desecration of Afghan corpses by U.S. Marines. CAIR then listed the background of this incident as outlined above and mentioned many of Geller’s past statements, and some of the hateful comments on her article.

 

Geller is wrong. Geller’s remarks, and the remarks of her followers should be condemned by decent people. There is nothing “funny” about her post.

 

There is a reason that the ADL (A Jewish anti-defamation group) has said that Pamela Geller & Robert Spencer’s Stop the Islamization of America (SIOA) is a “group that promote an extreme anti-Muslim agenda”. There is a reason that The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated SIOA as a hate group, and that they are featured in the SPLC reports Jihad Against Islam and The Anti-Muslim Inner Circle. There is a reason that Geller and Spencer are featured prominently in the Center for American Progress “Fear Inc.” report on the Islamophobia network in America. There is a reason that Geller is featured in the People for the American Way Right Wing Playbook on Anti-Muslim Extremism. There is a reason that Geller is featured in the NYCLU report Religious Freedom Under Attack: The Rise of Anti-Mosque Activities in New York State. There is a reason that Geller is featured in the Political Research Associates report Manufacturing the Muslim menace: Private firms, public servants, and the threat to rights and security. There is a reason that the SIOA’s trademark patent was denied by the U.S. government due to its anti-Muslim nature. There is a reason that they are featured in our TAM Who’s Who of the Anti-Muslim/Anti-Arab/Islamophobia Industry. There is a reason that Geller is featured in just about every legitimate report on Islamophobia and anti-Muslim hatred.

 

And the reason is not that she is “funny”.

 

 

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Al-Azhar, condemned on Friday an incident of what appears to be American forces urinating on dead Taliban fighters and described it as "a flagrant violation" of the sanctity of the fighters.

 

The video, posted on YouTube and other websites, shows four men in camouflage Marine combat uniforms urinating on three corpses. One of them jokes: "Have a nice day, buddy." Another makes a lewd joke.

 

"This is a flagrant violation of the sanctity of the Afghani martyrs, and it is shocking to the most basic principles of human civilisation," a senior adviser to grand imam of Al-Azhar told Reuters.

 

The images reinforced a sense in the Muslim world that U.S. military campaigns in Afghanistan from 2001 and Iraq from 2003, were — far from bringing peace and democracy — an opportunity to assert U.S. power over Muslim populations.

 

"This shows the emptiness and the absence of the values of the civilisation that those aggressors belong to," the Al-Azhar adviser said, quoting Sheikh Ahmed el-Tayyeb, the grand imam.

 

Al-Azhar is Egypt's highest religious authority, training most of the country's imams and providing thousands of religious rulings (fatwas) daily.

 

The incident also prompted anger in Afghanistan where the president condemned the video, describing the men's actions as "inhuman" and calling for an investigation.

 

The Corps named a lead investigating officer whose job would include deciding what charges, if any, would be brought against the four men — all of whom have been identified, a Corps official told Reuters.

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