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NO THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION.

 

your logic:

 

big bang explosion created order in nature

 

my logic:

 

explosion does not creates order, only inteligent person or God

 

Ok if your so knowledgable about evolution, tell me................what has the big bang got to do with evolution?

 

And for the record a rapid expansion of time and space is still more plausable than some being having always existed, which contradicts your view on creation. Nothing can exsist without a creator right?

 

As for your attempted rebuttal of evolution..............lol..............You clearly know nothing about the subject, stick to what you know best myths and fairtales and leave science to the scientists.

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Ok if your so knowledgable about evolution, tell me................what has the big bang got to do with evolution?

 

And for the record a rapid expansion of time and space is still more plausable than some being having always existed, which contradicts your view on creation. Nothing can exsist without a creator right?

 

As for your attempted rebuttal of evolution..............lol..............You clearly know nothing about the subject, stick to what you know best myths and fairtales and leave science to the scientists.

 

 

what has the big bang got to do with evolution?

 

you dont understand, dont you?

 

have you ever seen explosion create order, in other words, big bang explosion, then we see harmony in nature, animals, humans, plants, the earth, the moon, then sun.

 

How can you believe that (evolution-nature) itself created such harmony in nature from a explosion???????????

 

and by the way, here is evidence, when western scientists confirm that scientific information in quran can only be from GOD

 

 

 

 

 

HOW DO YOU FEEL INSIDE YOUR ATHEISTIC SOUL WHEN YOU HEAR SCIENTISTS COMMENT QURAN SCIENCE, AND CONFIRM SCIENCE IN QURAN , AND CONFIRM THAT SUCH INFO CAN COME FROM GOD? HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT MAN? I THINK THAT IS REAL PAIN FOR YOU TO SEE THESE TWO VIDEOS, BEACUSE THEY DONT FIT YOUR ATHEISTIC AGENDA.

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Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang.

 

Evolution is any change across successive generations in the heritable characteristics of biological populations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.

 

The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model that explains the early development of the Universe.

 

 

 

Following the release of a video clip of an interview he participated in in the 1980's, William Hay has often been cited as a scientist who has allegedly attested to the miraculous nature of the information within the Quran.

 

This video is an uncut interview with Prof Hay nearly 30 years later asking him to explain this experience in detail, and his thoughts on the matter.

 

 

Youtube William Hay, this is the truth.

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Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang.

 

Evolution is any change across successive generations in the heritable characteristics of biological populations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.

 

The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model that explains the early development of the Universe.

Following the release of a video clip of an interview he participated in in the 1980's, William Hay has often been cited as a scientist who has allegedly attested to the miraculous nature of the information within the Quran.

 

This video is an uncut interview with Prof Hay nearly 30 years later asking him to explain this experience in detail, and his thoughts on the matter.

Youtube William Hay, this is the truth.

 

 

it is very easy to destroy theory of evolutions

 

here is jus little example why and how

 

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JUVENILE RABBIT

 

Age: 30 million years old

Location: Lusk, Wyoming

Formation: White River Formation

Period: Oligocene

 

30-million-year-old fossils that are identical with creatures living today refute the theory of evolution. Fossil discoveries reveal that rabbits have always been rabbits.

 

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PERCH

 

Age: 54 to 37 million years old

Size: 30.4 centimeters (12 in)

Location: Kemmerer, Wyoming

Formation: Green River Formation

Period: Eocene

 

Perches are a kind of fish that can adapt to different environments and water temperatures.

 

Darwinists' claim that livings species evolved from one another via gradual changes is once again refuted by perch fossils. Today's living perches share the same structures as their counterparts of 50 million years ago.

 

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FLYING FISH

 

Age: 95 million years old

Size: 28 millimeters (1.1 in) across pectoral fins, 47 millimeters (1.8 in) in length; matrix: 75 millimeters (2.9 in) by 70 millimeters (2.7 in)

Location: Haqil, Lebanon

Period: Middle Cretaceous, Middle Cenomanian

 

This flying fish fossil, which is identical to present-day specimens, prove that living things have not undergone a process of evolution. These vertebrates have survived unchanged for millions of years. This demolishes the claim of "stage–by-stage evolution," which is the basic foundation of Darwinism.

 

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SPIDER

 

Age: 156 to 150 million years old

Size: 1.5 centimeters (0.6 in) (leg to leg ), 0.7 centimeters (0.28 in) (body )

Location: Beipiao, Liaoning Province, China

Period: Upper Jurassic

 

The oldest known fossil spider is of a water spider, 425 million years old. The fossil pictured is 156 to 150 million years old. Such fossils show that spiders have been the same for hundreds of million years. Darwinists have no consistent and scientific answer for these findings.

 

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WOLF SKULL

 

Age: 20 million years old

Size: 25 centimeters (10 in)

Location: Asia

Period: Miocene

 

Fossils of mammals also deny evolution. The fossil wolf skull pictured is 20 million years old. Wolves have preserved their structures for 20 million years, proving that the theory of evolution is invalid.

 

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TIGER SKULL

 

Age: 20 million years old

Size: 29 centimeters (11.5 in)

Location: Asia

Period: Miocene

 

The tiger is a mammal of the Felidae family. 80 percent of the tiger species live in the Indian Peninsula.

 

The fossil tiger skull in the picture is 20 million years old and displays the same features as tigers living today. For millions of years, their bone structure has remained the same, refuting the theory of evolution.

 

 

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RHINO SKULL

 

Age: 20 million years old

Size: 51 centimeters (20 in)

Location: Asia

Period: Miocene

 

Rhinos of the Rhinocerotidae family generally live in Africa and Asia, but have not changed for millions of years. The 20-million-year-old rhino skull pictured shows that rhinos have remained the same for millions of years.

 

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DRAGONFLY

 

Age: 156 to 150 million years old

Size: wingspan: 11.4 centimeters (4.5 in); body: 7.6 centimeters (3 in); matrix:16.5 centimeters (6.5 in) by 13.7 centimeters (5.4 in)

Location: Beipiao, Liaoning Province

Period: Upper Jurassic

 

Leading helicopter manufacturers analyze the wing structures and flight mechanisms of dragonflies while designing their craft. The dragonfly's advanced flight mechanism that ensures efficient use of its wing structure also existed 150 million years ago. Dragonfly fossils that are hundreds of millions of years old pose an inexplicable situation for Darwinists and refute Darwinists' claims.

 

 

 

AS I SAID BEFORE, IT IS EASY TO DESTROY THEORY OF EVOLUTION :sl:

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heres a 55 million year old rabbit..........

 

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Did you look up the William Hay video on youtube?

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heres a 55 million year old rabbit..........

 

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that is stupidity on highest level, do you know why, beacuse it does not means if you find another species that it means that they evolved, it just mean that those species are exctincted. and they are not present today.

 

 

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they say that rabbit fossil look like this, but hey , we have similar animals today that look like this animal

 

look this Giant rat , Papua, new Guinea

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or this animal

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did those also evolved from rabbits? :sl:

 

it is so easy for me to debunk theory of evolution like it is easy drinking a glas of water in a hot summer day :sl:

 

but you will never debunk astronomy verses in quran, beacuse they are from God

 

Did you look up the William Hay video on youtube?

 

yes, BUT HE DID NOT SAY THAT THOSE SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION ARE FALSE IN QURAN, JUST THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE INTERNALL WAVES IN THE SEA WITH THEY OWN EYES, if we say like this

 

FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, WE AGREE WITH THAT, WE SAY THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE WITH THEIR OWN EYES THOSE INTERNALL WAVES, BUT....

 

COULD THEY SEE OTHER STUFF WICH WHERE IN QURAN LIKE, BIG BANG, EXPANSION OF UNIVERSE, GEOMTRY OF UNIVERSE FLAT LIKE A SHEET OF PAPER, ORBIT OF THE MOON, NEBULAS, BLACK HOLES, PULSARS, AND MANY OTHER SCIENTIFIC VERSES?

 

NO THEY COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT MODERN TECHNOLOGY...

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CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT QURAN IS A BOOK FROM GOD, MATHEMATICAL EVIDENCE WICH EVERYONE OF YOU CAN TEST THIS AND SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES

 

We take all verse numbers where name of Allah is mentioned in chapter Ants/ sura Naml in orginal Quran in arabic.

 

8,9,15,24.......87,88,93 , 25 different verses where Allah's name was mentioned from chapter with 93 verses.

 

we make quadrant 5x5 with numbers, if we make some combinations and sum those numbers in those conbination we get same number , 931

 

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odd and even number position combination

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even positions 2,4,6...and so on.

 

we see that those numbers are 9,24,26...64,79,88= sum of all those numbers is 587 and we turn the number backwards we get 785 , 587->785

 

odd positions in quadrant is 1,3,5,7...and so on

 

we see that those numbers are

 

8,15,25...87,93= sum of all those numbers is 641->146

 

(785+146)=931

 

now we try other combination and we get same results wich is amazing, this is clear proof that quran is programed book from allmighty God who crated all this universe.

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I WILL EXPLAIN IT TO YOU WHY THIS IS FROM GOD.

 

TO CREATE SUCH QUADRANT FROM TEXT WICH MAKE SENSE IN A BOOK , FROM VERSE POSITIONS,AND MAKE SUCH BEAUTIFUL GEOMETRICAL COMBINATIONS YOU NEED COMPUTER TO MAKE SUCH QUADRANT. HEY, BUT REMEMBER THAT THIS BOOK IS 1400 YEARS OLD

 

if you have questions about this, ask me i will explain it to you

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This is also a scientific argument that there is God, paradise and hell

 

if you watch what scinetists say about parallel universes, they say that they can exists, with their own natural laws and habitants

 

IF SCIENTISTS CAN BELIEVE IN THIS WITH THE HELP OF SCIENCE WHY IS IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT HELL AND PARADISE EXISTS IN THIS PARALLEL UNIVERSES , AND IF THEY CAN BELIEVE IN THESE PARALLEL UNIVERSE EVEN TOUGH THEY CAN NOT SEE IT WHY IS IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS GOD?

 

Scientists talking about parallel universe, in other words Paradise and Hell

 

 

AND BY THE WAY, GOD ALREADY INFORMED US IN QURAN ABOUT PARALLEL UNIVERSES WICH THOSE SCINETISTS TALKS ABOUT IN THAT VIDEO

 

GOD SAYS IN QURAN:

 

65:12 It is Allah Who has created the seven universes, and seven earthly worlds like them..

 

this information is 1400 years old, did muhammed knew string theory by the way :sl:, i ask you atheists?

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This is also a scientific argument that there is God, paradise and hell

 

if you watch what scinetists say about parallel universes, they say that they can exists, with their own natural laws and habitants

 

IF SCIENTISTS CAN BELIEVE IN THIS WITH THE HELP OF SCIENCE WHY IS IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT HELL AND PARADISE EXISTS IN THIS PARALLEL UNIVERSES , AND IF THEY CAN BELIEVE IN THESE PARALLEL UNIVERSE EVEN TOUGH THEY CAN NOT SEE IT WHY IS IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS GOD?

 

Scientists talking about parallel universe, in other words Paradise and Hell

AND BY THE WAY, GOD ALREADY INFORMED US IN QURAN ABOUT PARALLEL UNIVERSES WICH THOSE SCINETISTS TALKS ABOUT IN THAT VIDEO

 

GOD SAYS IN QURAN:

 

65:12 It is Allah Who has created the seven universes, and seven earthly worlds like them..

 

this information is 1400 years old, did muhammed knew string theory by the way :sl:, i ask you atheists?

 

 

Bcause theres no evidence to support the god theory.

 

Even multipule universes are not as complex as God, yet you are happy to believe he dosent need a creator?

 

As for your evolution nonsence you posted, You still dont have a clue about it :sl:

 

LOL u actually think u have debunked something LOL

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Bcause theres no evidence to support the god theory.

 

Even multipule universes are not as complex as God, yet you are happy to believe he dosent need a creator?

 

As for your evolution nonsence you posted, You still dont have a clue about it :sl:

 

LOL u actually think u have debunked something LOL

 

i know that i can not change your view about God, it is only God who change heartsand minds of the people

 

God said in quran:

 

6:111 Even if We sent the angels down to them(unbelievers), and the dead spoke to them, and We gathered all things right in front of them, they still would not believe, unless God so willed, but most of them are ignorant

 

42:8 If God had so willed, He would surely have made them a single community (of the same faith and way of life), but He admits whom He wills into His Mercy. As for the wrongdoers, they have neither a guardian (to protect them), nor a helper

 

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ATHEISTS WHEN THEY STAY IN FRONT OF GOD ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT, GOD TELLS US IN QURAN WHAT THEY WILL SAY TO HIM ON THAT DAY

 

God says in quran:

 

32:12-14 If only you could see the evildoers hanging their heads in shame before their Lord: ‘Our Lord, we have seen and we have heard, so send us back again and we will act rightly. Truly we now have certainty.’

‘If it had been Our will, We could certainly have given every soul its true guidance, but My words have come true. “I shall be sure to fill Hell with jinn and men together.â€

So since you ignored the meeting on this Day of yours, now We shall ignore you: taste the lasting suffering for all you have done.’

 

23:99 When death comes to one of them, he cries, ‘My Lord, let me return,

That I may do some good I did not do (in the world)." Not so. These are only words he utters. Behind them lies the intervening barrier (stretching) to the day of their resurrection.

 

What will happen on the day of judgment, God tells in quran:

 

18:47-49 One day We shall make the mountains move, and you will see the earth as an open plain. We shall gather all people together, leaving no one.

They will be arraigned before their Lord row on row, (and He will say): "Well, you have come to Us as We had first created you, even though you imagined We had fixed no time for this meeting."

The Book will be set in place and you will see the evildoers fearful of what is in it. They will say, ‘Alas for us! What is this Book which does not pass over any action, small or great, without recording it?’ They will find there everything they did and your Lord will not wrong anyone at all

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for me is enough to see these animals to know that there must be a creator, God, who designed them with purpose, like those fake eyes to scare predators, there is no chance that animal can think and have capabilities to develop those mechanisms on their own desire.

 

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for me is enough to see these animals to know that there must be a creator, God, who designed them with purpose, like those fake eyes to scare predators, there is no chance that animal can think and have capabilities to develop those mechanisms on their own desire.

 

Again all you are providing is special pleading. "Please believe me because these pictures look pretty". Sorry, that's not how it works. I see in these threads an enormous amount of ignorance and proof that people can be misled as long as they are given positive confirmation.

 

If there is no proof for the validity of the Theory of Evolution, why are Muslim clerics now finding confirmation for it in the Koran? Why are clerics such as Yusuf Estes now making a U-turn and telling Muslims that there might be sufficient reason to accept reality?

 

Does that mean when that happens you will stop being a Muslim? Does that mean you will throw out the Koran and believe in a different book?

 

Another thing: have you heard of Derren Brown? He shows how out of millions and zillions of words you can NOT use statistics or probability to arrive at the word "influential". I tried inserting the YouTube video of this demonstration, but I am unable to do so.

 

No, hardly anything happens only and completely based on chance.

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Again all you are providing is special pleading. "Please believe me because these pictures look pretty". Sorry, that's not how it works.

 

this is typical atheistic answer

 

i dont post photos of those animals beacuse the animals look pretty, i post them beacuse of they false eyes, wich has for purpose to scare predators..

 

 

I ASK YOU HOW COULD THOSE ANIMALS WITHOUT INTELECT AND ABILITY TO TRANSFORM THEM DURING LIFE TIME TO HAVE THOSE FALSE EYES.

 

DO THOSE ANIMALS KNOW THAT BIGGER EYES RESEMBLES BIGGER ANIMALS?

CAN THOSE ANIMALS THINK AND KNOW THIS STUFF?

CAN THOSE ANIMALS DRAW THOSE FALSE EYES BY THEMSELVES?

 

why you atheists dont think little harder, and see the real evidence of existence of God.

 

when i see camel dung and footsteps in the desert, i know that there was a camel there if tough i did not see the camel, but how can you watch those animals and everything around yourself and not see inteligent design on this planet...when you see creation you know that there was a creator..

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DO THOSE ANIMALS KNOW THAT BIGGER EYES RESEMBLES BIGGER ANIMALS?

CAN THOSE ANIMALS THINK AND KNOW THIS STUFF?

CAN THOSE ANIMALS DRAW THOSE FALSE EYES BY THEMSELVES?

 

Oh dear! My question is why don't you first familiarise yourself just a little with what evolution does and what the mechanism is? There is no goal and no knowledge involved.

 

 

why you atheists dont think little harder, and see the real evidence of existence of God.

 

when i see camel dung and footsteps in the desert, i know that there was a camel there if tough i did not see the camel, but how can you watch those animals and everything around yourself and not see inteligent design on this planet...when you see creation you know that there was a creator..

 

I would love to see real evidence. But in spite of years looking for real evidence, I get people like you telling me I need faith and gullible ignorance to see the signs. And then some are even worse and lie to me.

Example: they show me videos, showing an idiot telling me that he has found evidence of a Haman in a museum in Austria, which proves this Haman existed in Egypt, which proves Haman in the Koran is the Haman who existed in the story about a Pharaoh and this proves the Koran being correct and this proves that the Koran is of divine origin which proves a god exists. Oh boy! If I check just a little bit I find the entire evidence right at the beginning is one fat lie.

 

If you see dung without the camel you can deduce a camel was here. Now, if you do the same with genes, chromosomes and DNA you see the traces of evolution.

Since you know the camel so well: please track the laryngeal nerve of the camel and ask yourself if this is the most stupid design or the dumbest design. But that's how evolution works. No creator required. Just because you don't understand it, does not necessarily imply it does not exist, but Goddidit.

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Oh dear! My question is why don't you first familiarise yourself just a little with what evolution does and what the mechanism is? There is no goal and no knowledge involved.

I would love to see real evidence. But in spite of years looking for real evidence, I get people like you telling me I need faith and gullible ignorance to see the signs. And then some are even worse and lie to me.

Example: they show me videos, showing an idiot telling me that he has found evidence of a Haman in a museum in Austria, which proves this Haman existed in Egypt, which proves Haman in the Koran is the Haman who existed in the story about a Pharaoh and this proves the Koran being correct and this proves that the Koran is of divine origin which proves a god exists. Oh boy! If I check just a little bit I find the entire evidence right at the beginning is one fat lie.

 

If you see dung without the camel you can deduce a camel was here. Now, if you do the same with genes, chromosomes and DNA you see the traces of evolution.

Since you know the camel so well: please track the laryngeal nerve of the camel and ask yourself if this is the most stupid design or the dumbest design. But that's how evolution works. No creator required. Just because you don't understand it, does not necessarily imply it does not exist, but Goddidit.

 

 

Oh dear! My question is why don't you first familiarise yourself just a little with what evolution does and what the mechanism is? There is no goal and no knowledge involved.

 

i have studied evolution enough to see that it is a false theory

 

my question for you

 

How can someone give something wich he does not possess in his own hands, HOW CAN NATURE GIVE BRAIN AND INTELECT TO HUMANS AND NATURE ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE BRAIN NOR INTELECT. so someone who have something can give it to other, God has intelect and has power to give to humans?

 

 

 

Example: they show me videos, showing an idiot telling me that he has found evidence of a Haman in a museum in Austria, which proves this Haman existed in Egypt, which proves Haman in the Koran is the Haman who existed in the story about a Pharaoh and this proves the Koran being correct and this proves that the Koran is of divine origin which proves a god exists. Oh boy! If I check just a little bit I find the entire evidence right at the beginning is one fat lie.

 

is i a lie :sl:

 

let see

 

Haman in quran

 

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"HAMAN" AND ANCIENT EGYPT MONUMENTS

 

 

The name "Haman" was not known until the decoding of Egyptian hieroglyphics in the 19th century. When the hieroglyphics were decoded, it was understood that Haman was a close helper of the Pharaoh and was "the head of the stone quarries." (Above are shown ancient Egyptian construction workers). The most important point here is that Haman is mentioned in the Qur'an as the person who directed construction work under the command of the Pharaoh. This means that information that could not have been known by anybody else at that time was given in the Qur'an, a point most worthy of note.

 

The Qur'an relates the life of the Prophet Musa (as) with great clarity. As it tells of the conflict with the Pharaoh and his dealings with the Children of israel, the Qur'an reveals a wealth of information about ancient Egypt. The significance of many of these historical points have only recently come to the attention of the learned people of the world. If one considers these points with reason, it quickly becomes clear that the Qur'an, and the fountain of information contained within it, has been revealed by the All-Wise Allah for it correlates directly with all major scientific, historic and archaeological finds in recent times.

 

One such example of this wisdom can be found in the Qur'anic references to Haman: a character whose name is mentioned in the Qur'an, along with the Pharaoh. He is mentioned in six different places in the Qur'an, in which it informs us that he was one of Pharaoh's closest allies.

 

Surprisingly, the name "Haman" is never mentioned in those sections of the Torah pertaining to the life of the Prophet Musa (as). However, the mention of Haman can be found in the last chapters of the Old Testament as the helper of a Babylonian king who inflicted many cruelties on the israelites approximately 1,100 years after the Prophet Musa (as).The Qur'an, far more in tune with recent archaeological discoveries, does indeed contain the word "Haman" in reference to the life of the Prophet Musa (as).

 

The criticisms thrown at the book of Islam by some non-Muslims have disappeared by the wayside as an Egyptian hieroglyphic script had been deciphered, approximately 200 years ago, and the name "Haman" discovered in the ancient scripts. Until the 18th century, the writings and inscriptions of ancient Egypt could not be understood. The language of ancient Egypt was made up of symbols rather than words: hieroglyphics. These pictures, which tell stories and keep records of important events in the same way that modern words do, was usually engraved on rock or stone and many examples survived through the ages. With the spread of Christianity and other cultural influences in the 2nd and 3rd centuries, Egypt forsook its ancient beliefs along with the hieroglyphic writing which was synonymous with that now defunct belief system. The last known example of the use of hieroglyphic writing was an inscription dated 394. The language of pictures and symbols was forgotten, leaving nobody who could read and understand it. Naturally, this made historical and archaeological study virtually impossible. This situation remained-until just over two centuries ago.

 

In 1799, much to the delight of historians and other learned people, the mystery of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics was solved by the discovery of a tablet called the "Rosetta Stone." This amazing find dated back to 196 B.C. The importance of this inscription was that it was written in three different forms of writing: hieroglyphics, demotic (a simplified form of ancient Egyptian hieratic writing) and Greek. With the help of the Greek script, the ancient Egyptian writings were decoded. The translation of the inscription was completed by a Frenchman named Jean-Françoise Champollion. Hence, a forgotten language and the events related in it were brought to light. In this way, a great deal of knowledge about the civilization, religion and social life of ancient Egypt became available to mankind and this opened the way to greater knowledge about this important era in human history.

 

Through the decoding of hieroglyph, an important piece of knowledge was revealed: The name "Haman" was indeed mentioned in Egyptian inscriptions. This name was referred to in a monument in the Hof Museum in Vienna. This same inscription also indicated the close relationship between Haman and the Pharaoh.200

 

In the dictionary of People in the New Kingdom, that was prepared based on the entire collection of inscriptions, Haman is said to be "the head of stone quarry workers."201

 

The result revealed a very important truth: Unlike the false assertion of the opponents of the Qur'an, Haman was a person who lived in Egypt at the time of the Prophet Musa (as). He had been close to the Pharaoh and had been involved in construction work, just as imparted in the Qur'an.

 

Pharaoh said, "Council, I do not know of any other god for you apart from Me. Haman, kindle a fire for me over the clay and build me a lofty tower so that perhaps I may be able to climb up to Musa's god! I consider him a blatant liar." (Qur'an, 28:38)

 

The verse in the Qur'an describing the event where the Pharaoh asked Haman to build a tower is in perfect agreement with this archaeological finding. Through this brilliant discovery, the irrational claims of the opponents of the Qur'an were demonstrated to be false and intellectually worthless.

 

In a miraculous way, the Qur'an conveys to us historical information that could not have been possessed or understood at the time of the Prophet (saas). Hieroglyphics could not be deciphered until the late 1700s so the information could not have been ascertained from Egyptian sources. When the name "Haman" was discovered in the ancient scripts, it was further proof of the infallibility of Allah's Word.

 

200. Walter Wreszinski, Aegyptische Inschriften aus dem K.K. Hof Museum in Wien (Egyptian Inscriptions from the K.K. Hof Museum in Vienna) (Leipzig: J C Hinrichs’sche Buchhandlung: 1906).

201. Hermann Ranke, Die Ägyptischen Personennamen, Verzeichnis der Namen (The Egyptian Family Names, Listing of the Names), Verlag Von J J Augustin in Glückstadt, Band I,1935, Band II, 1952.

 

 

 

If you see dung without the camel you can deduce a camel was here. Now, if you do the same with genes, chromosomes and DNA you see the traces of evolution.

 

wrong again

 

Disproving Evolution in Less Than 3 Minutes

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i have studied evolution enough to see that it is a false theory

 

my question for you

 

How can someone give something wich he does not possess in his own hands, HOW CAN NATURE GIVE BRAIN AND INTELECT TO HUMANS AND NATURE ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE BRAIN NOR INTELECT. so someone who have something can give it to other, God has intelect and has power to give to humans?

 

 

Can I reply? I always get: Sorry, your post was too long, please reduce it

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I will need to split this. No idea how to find out what is too long.

 

i have studied evolution enough to see that it is a false theory

 

my question for you

 

How can someone give something wich he does not possess in his own hands, HOW CAN NATURE GIVE BRAIN AND INTELECT TO HUMANS AND NATURE ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE BRAIN NOR INTELECT. so someone who have something can give it to other, God has intelect and has power to give to humans?

 

 

It looks as though your "study" consisted of watching a few Harun Yahya videos. A branch in science is biology, of which evolutionary biology is a sub-branch. Have you ever tried writing your "proof" that evolution is wrong to those scientists that study evolutionary biology? Has Mr. Oktar? Anyone demonstrating this would be rich and famous AND would be receiving endless praise by all religions for showing that a god maybe responsible. But sadly, all we have is some YouTube videos. Made by criminals or idiots who appeal to the gullible.

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Haman in quran

 

"HAMAN" AND ANCIENT EGYPT MONUMENTS

 

 

This is the example I was talking about. How much nonsense can you fit into a short video clip?

 

And the text you pasted here is one lie a sentence.

 

Let me give you some quick examples what this Bucaille did:

 

Of course Egyptian legends and stories were orally transmitted during Muhammad's era.

No, the name Haman was not discovered anywhere.

The Hof museum does not exist and did not exist when Bucaille was alive. Which means he was never there.

There is no stela with the name Haman anywhere.

Bucaille was referring to an entry in Wreszinski's Book which mentions a door-post with hmn-h (Hemen-Hetep, an Egyptian god, the gracious falcon god Hemen) on it.

This Hemen-Hetep was a foreman in a quarry ~500 km South of Cairo building a temple for Amun.

No construction or beginning of a construction for a tower has ever been found.

Bucaille gets the names of the books wrong and all the places and even has to refer to some unnamed French expert in everything.

 

Let's look at the pronunciation of this entry in detail:

 

If we go to the Ranke entry, we see that he draws the hieroglyphs, consisting of

 

1. V28 sound sign for alas

2. Y5 senet board

3. N35 sound sign for n. water line

4. F18 sound sign for stream

5. Y1 Papyrus scroll

 

You can get the pronunciation from the Gardiner-List.

 

Ranke quite rightly points out that the pronunciation of the h is a so-called emphatic h, which corresponds neatly with the Gardiner list. He therefore marks the h with a dot underneath it.

 

In the Koran, we have

1. normal H

2. an Alif

3. the Mim

4. another Alif

5. the final Nun

So how does this correspond to the hieroglyphs? Well, only the Mim and the Nun are comparable, the rest is not. The one of the three possible h sounds in Arabic is different.

 

So much for the perfect transliteration. Pity I can't get the actual hieroglyphs to show up here.

 

This is the translation of the entire text on the door-post:

(1) An offering, which the king gives to Osiris, Foremost of the Westerners, Lord of Infinity, Ruler of Eternity, so that he may give everything that is offered on his food table; the sweet breath of the northern wind; a goodly funeral for his old age, for the Ka of the overseer of the stonemasons of Amun Hemen-hetep, true of voice.

(2) An offering, which the king gives to the Western Desert and Amaunet, the Lady of Heaven, so that she may give food and sustenance and all kinds of offerings, all things good and pure, for the Ka of the overseer of the stonemasons of Amun Hemen-hetep, true of voice. (3) His son Pu-hetep.

(4) The mistress of the house Nefret-nub.

 

Is there anything in here indicative of a relationship of any kind with a Pharaoh? Nope.

 

Bucaille simply makes this up and Yahya and IslamicAwareness simply copy it.

 

Baked bricks were not used to build large buildings at the time, so that's another mistake. Several Egyptologists have been asked to comment Bucaille's version and have all stated the same thing: fabrication. You can check this here, just a few examples:

Hermann Ranke, Die Ägyptischen Personennamen, Verzeichnis der Namen, Verlag Von J J Augustin in Glückstadt, Band I (1935)

Walter Wrszinski, Aegyptische Inschriften aus dem K.K. Hof Museum in Wien: J C Hinrichs'sche Buchhandlung, Leipzig, 1906

C. Peust, Egyptian phonology: an introduction to the phonology of a dead language, S. 54ff.

J. Osing, die Nominalbildung des Ägyptischen, S. 367f.

A. J. Spencer, Brick Architecture In Ancient Egypt, 1979, op. cit., p. 140; B.

 

 

Everything Bucaille writes is wrong and what is then copied by Harun Yahya or IslamicAwareness(contact admin if its a beneficial link) is just a re-distribution of absurd lies.

 

Man, you have to really stop believing lying idiots such as Yahya. Does he lie? Yes, I can prove it. Is he an idiot? Yes, as you can see in his texts he does not even apply a re-format to the texts he copies as the footnotes are always the same size and height as the rest of the texts and does not even credit his source.

 

But now: why do you believe others? Why don't you check yourself? Why, if I tell you something you immediately demand evidence - yet when a Muslim tells you something you trust them? Why?

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you did not answered my question,

 

here it is again

 

 

How can someone give something wich he does not possess in his own hands, HOW CAN NATURE GIVE BRAIN AND INTELECT TO HUMANS AND NATURE ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE BRAIN NOR INTELECT. so someone who have something can give it to other, God has intelect and has power to give to humans?

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Why Transition from Water to Land Is Impossible ?

 

Evolutionists claim that one day, a species dwelling in water somehow stepped onto land and was transformed into a land-dwelling species.

 

There are a number of obvious facts that render such a transition impossible:

 

1. Weight-bearing: Sea-dwelling creatures have no problem in bearing their own weight in the sea. However, most land-dwelling creatures consume 40% of their energy just in carrying their bodies around. Creatures making the transition from water to land would at the same time have had to develop new muscular and skeletal systems (!) to meet this energy need, and this could not have come about by chance mutations.

 

2. Heat Retention: On land, the temperature can change quickly, and fluctuates over a wide range. Land-dwelling creatures possess a physical mechanism that can withstand such great temperature changes. However, in the sea, the temperature changes slowly and within a narrower range. A living organism with a body system regulated according to the constant temperature of the sea would need to acquire a protective system to ensure minimum harm from the temperature changes on land. It is preposterous to claim that fish acquired such a system by random mutations as soon as they stepped onto land.

 

3. Water: Essential to metabolism, water needs to be used economically due to its relative scarcity on land. For instance, the skin has to be able to permit a certain amount of water loss, while also preventing excessive evaporation. That is why land-dwelling creatures experience thirst, something the sea-dwelling creatures do not do. For this reason, the skin of sea-dwelling animals is not suitable for a nonaquatic habitat.

 

4. Kidneys: Sea-dwelling organisms discharge waste materials, especially ammonia, by means of their aquatic environment. On land, water has to be used economically. This is why these living beings have a kidney system. Thanks to the kidneys, ammonia is stored by being converted into urea and the minimum amount of water is used during its excretion. In addition, new systems are needed to provide the kidney's functioning. In short, in order for the passage from water to land to have occurred, living things without a kidney would have had to develop a kidney system all at once.

 

5. Respiratory system: Fish "breathe" by taking in oxygen dissolved in water that they pass through their gills. They canot live more than a few minutes out of water. In order to survive on land, they would have to acquire a perfect lung system all of a sudden.

 

It is most certainly impossible that all these dramatic physiological changes could have happened in the same organism at the same time, and all by chance.

 

 

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INTERESTING SPINES : One of the creatures that suddenly emerged in the Cambrian Age is Hallucigenia (above, left). This and many other Cambrian fossils have hard, sharp spines to protect them from attack. One thing that evolutionists cannot account for is how these creatures should have such an effective defense system when there were no predators around. The lack of predators makes it impossible to explain these spines in terms of natural selection.

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you did not answered my question,

 

here it is again

How can someone give something wich he does not possess in his own hands, HOW CAN NATURE GIVE BRAIN AND INTELECT TO HUMANS AND NATURE ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE BRAIN NOR INTELECT. so someone who have something can give it to other, God has intelect and has power to give to humans?

 

Sorry, but I HAVE answered. I told you that instead of watching some Harun Yahya videos, you should get a basic understanding of what evolution does.

I also said that just because you don't understand it, does not mean it makes a god responsible.

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Why Transition from Water to Land Is Impossible ?

 

Evolutionists claim that one day, a species dwelling in water somehow stepped onto land and was transformed into a land-dwelling species.

 

What is an "Evolutionist"??? Something similar to a "Gravitationist"? "Atomist"? "Musicist"?

No, I do not know of anyone with any education and knowledge of evolution who would claim that. That's ridiculous.

 

Maybe that is what Harun Yahya imagines what others may think, but it's stupid. He's a primitive liar. Why do you believe him more than every real scientist on this planet?

 

And I am asking again: what will you do if the Muslim clerics will get this through that evolution is compatible with the Koran?

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What happened to our Haman and what Harun Yahya fabricated?

Did you check what Bucaille wrote and what the facts are?

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What is an "Evolutionist"??? Something similar to a "Gravitationist"? "Atomist"? "Musicist"?

 

Also similar to "Islamist".

 

Salam.

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Sorry, but I HAVE answered. I told you that instead of watching some Harun Yahya videos, you should get a basic understanding of what evolution does.

I also said that just because you don't understand it, does not mean it makes a god responsible.

 

in other words " i dont know" , that is what you are saying

 

my argument against evolution is not from Harun Yahya, but it is from Islamic book, i read it some years ago and i remember this argument and use it against evolutionists...

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