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Do The Tombs Of The Prophets Belong To Muslims?

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Do the tombs of prophets Abraham and Ezekiel as well as those of other figures such as Rachel, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and Mary (mother of Jesus) belong to Muslims or are they Jewish and Christian (that of mary)? Joseph's tomb was desecrated by Palestinians in 2000 as an insult to the Jews, yet Hanan Ashrawi claims that Jewish claim to the site is fabricated so who does it belong to? Did the palestinians desecrate a Muslim or Jewish site?

 

I hope that the shrine of Ezekiel is not being Islamicised because he was a Jew and it has been preserved all this time by Jews. For the purposes of cultural and religious restoration, it should be left as is was. I don't think it is realistic for Muslims or Christians to claim it after Jews have been the ones preserving it all of this time.

 

I believe they belong to all members of the Abrahamic faiths, however we have to respect history and the communities who have preserved these important sites. I mean, how would Muslims feel if the tomb of Prophet Muhammad was turned into a church or synagogue? We should all be respectful of one another and empathise.

 

 

Shi’a Wakf claims that Ezekiel’s shrine is Muslim

 

For background reading on the Ezekel’s tomb ongoing saga, see here, here, here and here.

 

Cross-post Point of no Return

 

In the week that Jews read the Biblical story of Ezekiel’s valley of dry bones, there are resurgent fears that the Shi’a Wakf (religious endowment) wishes to turn the shrine of the Jewish Prophet Ezekiel into a Masjid.

 

Two activists on behalf of the preservation of the shrine, at Kifl south of Baghdad, Mr Maurice Shohet from New York and Professor Shmuel Moreh, an israeli emeritus professor of Iraqi origin, sent Point of No Return an article published on 2 April in the respected Arabic newspaper Al-Hayat in London and on the Sawt al-’Iraq site (The Voice of Iraq) in Baghdad. The article proves that the Islamic authorities consider that the tomb of the Jewish prophet Ezekiel an exclusively Muslim shrine.

 

“That being the case, we find that we have to appeal to international authorities such as UNESCO, the US and European governments to redouble their efforts to save the Jewish character of Ezekiel’s tomb,” says Professor Moreh.

 

Religious authorities in Iraq are determined to convert the tomb of the Jewish prophet Ezekiel into a Masjid after deleting Hebrew inscriptions, according to the Al-Hayat and Sawt al-’Iraq. But a debate is still raging about the ownership of the shrine, and some Iraqis are prepared to stand up for Jewish interests.

 

The newspaper quotes the official in charge of the Shi’a Waqf (Endowment), Salih al-Haydari, who denies that the shrine belongs to the Jews. He says that the tomb is that of Dhu al-Kifl, a prophet mentioned in the Koran – proof enough that the site belongs to the Muslims. Recent excavations at the site, he claims, prove that it is not a Jewish site, although the findings have not yet been published!

 

The Shi’a Waqf in cooperation with the Ministry of Tourism and Antiquities is currently restoring the shrine. The foundations of the site have always been at risk from flooding and its minaret is in imminent danger of collapse.

 

However Mrs Mariam Omran, director of the Babylon heritage site, points out that Iraqi Jews used to visit Ezekiel’s shrine up until their migration in the mid-20th century. “The removal of Hebrew writings and inscriptions is part of the process of erasing the memory of religious minorities who were the original inhabitants of Iraq and other parts of the Middle East,” she says.

 

Mrs Omran says that the authorities responsible for preserving Iraq’s ancient heritage have come under pressure from Islamists to remove Hebrew words and ornamentation, in readiness for the building of a Masjid over the tomb of Ezekiel.

 

The article points out that the tomb was not previously of interest to Muslims until 2003, when the Shi’a Waqf started campaigning for the restoration of the site.

 

A spokesman for the Ministry of Tourism has denied reports that the character of the shrine is being altered. The tomb is being faithfully restored using original materials and old photographs, he claims.

 

The Department of Antiquities and Heritage has allocated about 250 million dinars for restoration work and maintenance, which began in the summer of 2008. A spokesman claims that the Muslim prophet Dhu al-Kifl is the same person as the Jewish prophet Ezekiel, who was taken prisoner by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC.

 

The shrine dates back to the 14th century. The Ottoman period witnessed a struggle for control between Jews and Muslims. Most of the buildings and surrounding shops belong to Jewish families and rent is still being paid to the landlords in israel and European countries.

 

Jewish settlers break into 'Muslim' shrines to perform Talmudic rituals: http://www.middleeas...almudic-rituals

Does anyone know which shrines these are?

 

It was a shock. If ever there was a illustration of the attempt by Islam to supersede Judaism, this was surely it. This holy Jewish shrine was to all intents a Masjid. Islamic prayer mats were piled high, and there seemed to be not one Jewish artefact in the place. Even the catafalques sporting labels claiming them as the tombs of the founders of Judaism were topped by Islamic crescents.

http://www.thejc.com...ons-jewish-past

Is this ethical on a religious and archeological basis?

Edited by missjupiter

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Why don't you ask the ones who are buried in the tombs to whom they belong to?

 

One of the things you quoted is quite misleading:

 

"Until recently, I had never been to Hebron. In the past three months, however, I have twice boarded an armoured bus to make the journey. The first time was with a private, non-political group to visit Hebron's Jewish area and the Cave of Machpelah, where Abraham and the patriarchs and matriarchs are said to be buried.

It was a shock. If ever there was a illustration of the attempt by Islam to supersede Judaism, this was surely it. This holy Jewish shrine was to all intents a Masjid. Islamic prayer mats were piled high, and there seemed to be not one Jewish artefact in the place. Even the catafalques sporting labels claiming them as the tombs of the founders of Judaism were topped by Islamic crescents."

 

While... "Until the era of the Byzantine Empire, the interior of the enclosure remained exposed to the sky. Under Byzantine rule, a simple basilica was constructed at the southeastern end and the enclosure was roofed everywhere except at the centre. In 614, the Persians conquered the area and destroyed the castle, leaving only ruins; but in 637, the area came under the control of the Muslims and the building was reconstructed as a roofed Masjid."

 

"After the conquest of the city by Umar, the Herodian enclosure was converted into a Masjid and placed under the control of a waqf. The waqf continues to control and maintain most of the site."

 

http://en.wikipedia....riarchs#History

 

If the area had been in ruins since the Persians and then reconstructed by the Muslims, I would say that the site is Muslim because it has been turned into a Masjid. The article you quoted makes sound a lot more dramatic than the actual situation is. So, the answer to your question, "Is this ethical on a religious and archeological basis?". Yes, it is quite ethical, at least in the case of the Cave of the Patriarchs because it was found in ruins by Muslims who then restored it. By archeological, you make it sound as if Muslims converted the site into a Masjid just recently.

 

With that being said, the majority of Muslims don't care about tombs. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) forbade us to take the graves of the Prophets (pbut) and the pious as places of worship, anyway. My primary concern is not tombs, especially considering there is no guarantee that the people buried therein are actually those who they are claimed to be.

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