ParadiseLost 333 Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) A US soldier who opened fire on Afghan civilians in Kandahar province entered their homes in the middle of the night and carried out the attack.Afghanistan's defence ministry said 16 civilians were killed in a shooting spree. Nine children and three women were among the dead. http://www.rte.ie/ne...fghanistan.html Also according to bbc: In one house in Najeeban, the gunman reportedly killed 11 people, setting fire to their bodies before he left. A relative of the 11 victims, Haji Samad, told Reuters news agency chemicals had been poured over the bodies and set alight. "I saw that all 11 of my relatives were killed, including my children and grandchildren," he added, weeping. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17332398 Edited March 11, 2012 by ParadiseLost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Doc 31 Posted March 11, 2012 Terrible. This will do no favors for the US and only incite someone to seek revenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaracenSoldier 130 Posted March 11, 2012 This might be a lie actually. According to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan it was a planned military raid where more than 50 civillians were killed. Now they are just covering up by blaming a single rogue soldier who has mental issues. Don't believe their lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Shirt 2 Posted March 11, 2012 This might be a lie actually. According to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan it was a planned military raid where more than 50 civillians were killed. Now they are just covering up by blaming a single rogue soldier who has mental issues. Don't believe their lies. Nor yours. r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saracen21stC 239 Posted March 12, 2012 This might be a lie actually. According to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan it was a planned military raid where more than 50 civillians were killed. Now they are just covering up by blaming a single rogue soldier who has mental issues. Don't believe their lies. There is no doubt that the American Soldiers hate Muslims especially those Afghan Muslims. So, it is a no-brainer that they want to kill as many Muslims as possible. And they have media to cover this up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saracen21stC 239 Posted March 12, 2012 Nor yours. r Lie???!!! Are you saying that American Soldiers have not killed 50 innocent Afghan civilians before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Shirt 2 Posted March 12, 2012 Lie???!!! Are you saying that American Soldiers have not killed 50 innocent Afghan civilians before? Not saying that at all. r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ParadiseLost 333 Posted March 12, 2012 Even if they are playing the 'he had a mental breakdown' card, doesn't mean it isn't true...after so many years at war of course the mentality of the soldiers is not right if they can urinate on dead bodies and kill innocent civilians - which is why they need to go because they are not making society in Afghan a better place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Shirt 2 Posted March 12, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17334646 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ala'adin 184 Posted March 12, 2012 I think that the soldier should be handed to the afghans and should face charges of terrorism, let the afghan courts decide his fate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scotia 1 Posted March 12, 2012 while not wanting to belittle this tragic event, how many afghan rioters will be charged? the koran burning riots claimed almost twice as many lives. Even if they are playing the 'he had a mental breakdown' card, doesn't mean it isn't true...after so many years at war of course the mentality of the soldiers is not right if they can urinate on dead bodies and kill innocent civilians - which is why they need to go because they are not making society in Afghan a better place. I agree with troops leaving afghanistan now, im sure the arab league will come to the rescue when afghanistan collapses again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Shirt 2 Posted March 12, 2012 while not wanting to belittle this tragic event, how many afghan rioters will be charged? the koran burning riots claimed almost twice as many lives. I agree with troops leaving afghanistan now, im sure the arab league will come to the rescue when afghanistan collapses again. I wasn't aware that Afghans were considered to be Arabs or were a part of the Arab league either. ron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scotia 1 Posted March 12, 2012 I wasn't aware that Afghans were considered to be Arabs or were a part of the Arab league either. ron who else would help them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yank 0 Posted March 12, 2012 A guy went nuts and did something awful, yes he should and will be punished for it. No this was not some part of a US conspiracy, that's easy enough to see by the amount of damage something like this does to the already disfunctional relationship between the US and the Afghan people. My sympathies go out to those who have lost friends and relatives in this tragedy, and I can asssure you that every sane/intellegent person in the US views the acts of this individual with utter disgust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaracenSoldier 130 Posted March 12, 2012 who else would help them? No one. If the US/NATO were not able to defeat the Taliban then how do you expect the Arab League to? The way things are going it looks as if the Taliban will return stronger, bolder, and more capable than ever before and this time with allies in Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Somalia, North Africa, The Caucasus and the list is growing. Quiet frankly, they have won. Once NATO/US withdraws that's it for Karzai and the world will have to accept them because their is no other choice now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAHIMI 4 Posted March 13, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...d-asia-17334646 And you actually bought that, for lack of better word, crap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Shirt 2 Posted March 13, 2012 You don't think it's factual? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAHIMI 4 Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) You don't think it's factual? It is as crappy as Obama's previous 'get me into the whitehouse and first thing i do is get the troops out you can bank on it' earlier crap which you seem to have bought then and now you are buying the same crap only with different flavour..sorry to be blunt.. Edited March 13, 2012 by RAHIMI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Shirt 2 Posted March 13, 2012 I don't know what your talking about. How would you know what I've 'bought'? r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scotia 1 Posted March 13, 2012 Even if they are playing the 'he had a mental breakdown' card, doesn't mean it isn't true...after so many years at war of course the mentality of the soldiers is not right if they can urinate on dead bodies and kill innocent civilians - which is why they need to go because they are not making society in Afghan a better place. A lot of muslims have played the "mental breakdown card", ppl on this forum have defended terrorist attacks by claiming it was probably some1 with mental issues and not a real muslim. No one. If the US/NATO were not able to defeat the Taliban then how do you expect the Arab League to? The way things are going it looks as if the Taliban will return stronger, bolder, and more capable than ever before and this time with allies in Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Somalia, North Africa, The Caucasus and the list is growing. Quiet frankly, they have won. Once NATO/US withdraws that's it for Karzai and the world will have to accept them because their is no other choice now. You have misunderstood my meaning, im suggesting muslims are ungrateful and they should be left to there own devices, no matter how bad they are getting it. nothing to do with winning or losing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ala'adin 184 Posted March 13, 2012 A lot of muslims have played the "mental breakdown card", ppl on this forum have defended terrorist attacks by claiming it was probably some1 with mental issues and not a real muslim. How exactly is that defending terrorist attacks? If anything thats deflecting blame. You have misunderstood my meaning, im suggesting muslims are ungrateful and they should be left to there own devices, no matter how bad they are getting it. nothing to do with winning or losing. Why would you suggest such a thing on a muslim forum? how did you form such a conclusion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scotia 1 Posted March 13, 2012 Deflecting blame from muslims, when it was muslims that carried out a terrorist attack. Dont u agree things would be better for every1 if saddam was still in charge in Iraq, the taliban were still executing ppl in football stadiums? or would you be hating on the west/nato for not doing anything? I was under the impression muslims believe the west should stay out of there affairs, as far as i can tell im agreeing with the muslim beliefs on the matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ala'adin 184 Posted March 13, 2012 In all honesty I think you have no clue about Islamic beliefs, based on your recent posts. it appears as though you want a reaction from someone so you can justify your already negative view on muslims.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scotia 1 Posted March 13, 2012 Do you not believe there should be no foreign troops in Iraq or Afghanistan? If by reaction you mean a reply to what i asked then yes. What negative views, more often than not the negative views on here are about non muslims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaracenSoldier 130 Posted March 13, 2012 Scotia the views in the Western World are NOT held by the Islamic World. You think you are doing the Muslims a favour by getting rid of Saddam and the Taliban? Can I ask you how many Muslims asked for any help? Your nations are there for their own interests and no one else's. If you think otherwise then clearly that's being unrealistic. How would you like it if an Islamic Army invaded your country, committed mass crimes and then we expect YOU to thank us and be grateful to us? You'd probably turn red with anger just thinking about it and you expect us to be grateful that the 'West' have ruined the lives of millions of people - Muslim AND non-Muslim? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
