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And what exactly are you implying with that statement? Yes you said it is a generalization, but I can tell you that many Muslims here in the US at least are more involved in learning that many of their cl######mates. There's really no need to cast aspersions on others here, especially since you don't like it when you are "treated harshly" on these forums.

 

I have friends that are not Muslim, I even have friends that are not Christian either. I don't judge by groups. My goal is to show through my actions how I live, not sit there and talk about it constantly.

 

Look,

I have no aspertions whatsover to cast. What is it with people these days? Yes, I said it as a generalistation, because this question applies as much to the UK as to Egypt, or anywhere, but fortunately or unfortunately - depending on who's side you happen to be on - Muslims are a group. Otherwise why would this be called a 'Muslim forum? Education is not the same the world over. Neither are, in general, religious groups, nor in reality - I'm sure - the balance of education they get. Otherwise what would we be discussing? This has nothing do with the past. But I wonder what it has to do with so-called education these days? Perhaps, 'politically correct education' might be a better term.

By the way, I have no idea what cl######mates means.

 

salaam,

 

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The following is a link of topic I posted on Gawaher many months ago. it is a study of Unbelievers and Hypocrites using the Qur'an. All conclusions are my own and not that of any other group. It is an excerpt from a larger work I am writing. It is uncited as it is unpublished and nowhere else on the net. http://www.gawaher.c...re-unbelievers/

 

Nice compilation of what you consider to be an unbeliever.

 

What is interesting is that you commend Nightingale for her altruistic attitude, but don't mention this attitude in your essay at all.

 

What if a person does everything you define as non-belief - yet is an altruistic philanthropist? Hell?

Also, I don't understand what you mean by "do not believe in God". Could you explain?

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No religion was attacked here, at least not by me...

 

Whether "attacked" or not, misconceptions where published here http://www.gawaher.com/topic/1070-the-bahais/#entry then the thread was sealed off so no Baha'is could clarify them. Sure, you may not have been the one putting forth these misconceptions personally, but this would still make the whole clarifying misconceptions thing a one-way street.

 

Kind regards.

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Nice compilation of what you consider to be an unbeliever.

 

What is interesting is that you commend Nightingale for her altruistic attitude, but don't mention this attitude in your essay at all.

 

What if a person does everything you define as non-belief - yet is an altruistic philanthropist? Hell?

Also, I don't understand what you mean by "do not believe in God". Could you explain?

 

The purpose of that essay was not to discuss how believers should act towards unbelievers. The focus was solely on defining unbelievers using the Qur'an as the basis of this definition. I believe the topic title makes this obvious. The topic is entitled "Who are Unbelievers?"

 

This is an Islamic forum. That is all it is. I also do not define the final outcome in this essay for any person who could fall into any category. The final outcome lies with God. If you would like an essay about the altruism, I could probably write you up one eventually. Either way, please accept the scope of the essay did not include your concern of altruism.

 

Asking me to define "do not believe in God?" I do not have the capacity at this time to define something I consider quite simply stated. What about the statement is unclear to you? Perhaps you can point out what has caused the confusion so I have a greater chance of helping you. Pathways this answer could go may include to deny His existence through believing creation exists at random. I imagine there are infinite points in between.

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Whether "attacked" or not, misconceptions where published here http://www.gawaher.c...e-bahais/#entry then the thread was sealed off so no Baha'is could clarify them. Sure, you may not have been the one putting forth these misconceptions personally, but this would still make the whole clarifying misconceptions thing a one-way street.

 

Kind regards.

 

That thread is archived. It goes back to 2004, and we can not comment on that. Get involved if these issues are raised on another thread.

 

For now this thread is closed as it is getting off-topic.

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