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letters DNA can only be found 3 times only in verse 18:65 ---> year 1865 began science of genetics (DNA) by gregor mendel officially when he had his presentation of his findings on a university.

 

No. Look:
 
"The genetic experiments Mendel did with pea plants took him eight years (1856-1863)" [http://www.dnaftb.org/1/bio.html]
 
"he published his results in 1865" [http://www.dnaftb.org/1/bio.html]. You can connect if you want year 1865 with the begin of Genetic, but I consider Genetic starting in 1866 because is the year of
 

Gregor Mendel (1822-1884) publishes "Experiments in Plant Hybridisation," establishing basic laws of inheritance [http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/resources/timeline/1866_Mendel.php]
 
Indeed, it would be very indisputable a miracle if the dna word can be found in Qu'ran 18/69 because: 
 
"A historical account of the discovery of DNA in 1869" (http://www.bizgraphic.ch/miescheriana/html/the_man_who_dicovered_dna.html)
 
 
 
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letters DNA can only be found 3 times only in verse 18:65 ---> year 1865 began science of genetics (DNA) by gregor mendel officially when he had his presentation of his findings on a university.

 

letters DNA ?

 

Not really... دنا = D-N-AA  (or D-N-O, or D-N-I, or D-N-E, or D-N-I if you believe alif can be vowel...)

 
Twisting word to fit your alleged foretold narrative is weird.

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False; look here http://arabic.tripod.com/Arab20.htm

 

[i do not know how post files and screenshots so I invite you to read the web]

 

There a square with all the values:

 

Alif is LONG A, and in Arabic Online Romanization the writing is AA.

 

So yes, isn't H,A,L,L,Y BUT H,A,A,L,L,Y

 

 

 

 

 

 I can say H,A,A,L,L,Y have 6 words !!, which I can connect to the number of chapter.

 

Like the exemple of NTRN and number 7/143; if the number of the verse (143) was'nt fulfilled, you could manage to fit the random connection whith 7, 71, 714, 7143, 14, ... you choose it, the only rule is that it must have a connection.

 

 

dont play games with me, i say there is no extra A written between H and A

 

look for yourself

 

6:76 فلما جن عليه الليل راى كوكبا قال هذا ربي فلما افل قال لااحب الافلي

 

AeLyH ALLYL

 

Quran in arabic

http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/quran/quran_search.cgi?search_text=&search_type=The+Entire+Noble+Quran&arabic=1&B1=Search

 

if you cant speak arabic nor read you are not in position to teach me how it is written

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Not really: http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=18&verse=65#(18:65:1)

 

"waʿallamnāhu min ladunnāʿil'man = and We had taught him from Us a knowledge

 

There's no clarification about.

 

"And they found a servant from among Our servants to whom we had given mercy from us and had taught him from Us a [certain] knowledge." (http://quran.com/18/65)

 

Again, your forced translation "OF OUR OWN" in order to fit your "prophecy about DNA" is made-up.

 

By the way I can twist the Qu'ran in order to make him foretold the invention of the train. Look:

 

"And a sign for them is that We carried their forefathers in a laden ship." (http://quran.com/36/41)

"And We created for them from the likes of it that which they ride." (http://quran.com/36/42)

 

letters DNA are there, ask any arabic speaker and see what he will tell you

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No. Look:
 
"The genetic experiments Mendel did with pea plants took him eight years (1856-1863)" [http://www.dnaftb.org/1/bio.html]
 
"he published his results in 1865" [http://www.dnaftb.org/1/bio.html]. You can connect if you want year 1865 with the begin of Genetic, but I consider Genetic starting in 1866 because is the year of
 

Gregor Mendel (1822-1884) publishes "Experiments in Plant Hybridisation," establishing basic laws of inheritance [http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/resources/timeline/1866_Mendel.php]
 
Indeed, it would be very indisputable a miracle if the dna word can be found in Qu'ran 18/69 because: 
 
"A historical account of the discovery of DNA in 1869" (http://www.bizgraphic.ch/miescheriana/html/the_man_who_dicovered_dna.html)
 
 
 

 

 

i said officially science of genetics began year 1865

 

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/dnaanniversary/

 

A Brief History of DNA's Discovery

 

1865 Gregor Mendel, in experiments with peas, theorizes about how traits are passed on from one generation to the next. 

 

1869 Swiss Scientist Friedrich Miescher isolates a material in cells that will eventually become known as "deoxyribonucleic acid" or DNA. He calls it "nuclein."

 

1909 German geneticist Wilhelm Johannsen coins the term "gene" to describe units of heredity.

 

1911 America scientist Thomas Hunt Morgan shows that these units of heredity are located on chromosomes. He receives the Nobel Prize in 1933.

 

1929 American biochemist Phoebus Levene determines the chemical makeup of DNA, identifying its four bases - - adenine, cytosine, guanine and thymine.

 

1943 English biochemist William Astbury makes the first X-ray diffraction images of DNA's structure.

 

1952 Work with viruses and bacteria by American scientists Alfred Hershey and Martha Chase supports the theory that genes are made of DNA.

 

1953 At Cavendish Laboratory at Cambridge, Francis Crick and James Watson describe the double helix structure of DNA and suggest how genetic material is copied. Their idea of a double helix formation is based on X-ray diffraction images made by Kings College's Rosalind Franklin, who was part of a lab led by Maurice Wilkins. Watson, Crick and Wilkins receive the Nobel Prize in 1962.

 

 

https://books.google.se/books?id=2rfMBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=DNA+history+1865&source=bl&ots=lH7oWKn-cn&sig=aZZRoEI6eqWwdVDUGVIxYdWa0-M&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjh59_9n77LAhVqP5oKHfoMDLk4ChDoAQhPMAc#v=onepage&q=DNA%20history%201865&f=false

 

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letters DNA ?

 

Not really... دنا = D-N-AA  (or D-N-O, or D-N-I, or D-N-E, or D-N-I if you believe alif can be vowel...)

 
Twisting word to fit your alleged foretold narrative is weird.

 

there is no DNAA, only DNA

 

there is only one Alif there, if you dont believe me ask any arab speaker and see what he will tell you how many alifs are there.

 

and you call me a joke, while you invet extra letter wich does not exist, only tro debunk me  :no: ooh man...

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there is no DNAA, only DNA

 

there is only one Alif there, if you dont believe me ask any arab speaker and see what he will tell you how many alifs are there.

 

and you call me a joke, while you invet extra letter wich does not exist, only tro debunk me  :no: ooh man...

 

No; Alif is a double A

 

is not Islam; is islAAm

 

 

 

Oh, so you believe "I'm playing with words". DNA or DNO  :rolleyes:

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dont play games with me, i say there is no extra A written between H and A

 

look for yourself

 

6:76 فلما جن عليه الليل راى كوكبا قال هذا ربي فلما افل قال لااحب الافلي

 

AeLyH ALLYL

 

Quran in arabic

http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/quran/quran_search.cgi?search_text=&search_type=The+Entire+Noble+Quran&arabic=1&B1=Search

 

if you cant speak arabic nor read you are not in position to teach me how it is written

 

H,A,L,L,Y 

 

The alif ALONE (without connection to the letter before of after) is a double a (AA). If you take after the H, then it can be A or another vowel, because there's no diacritics.

 

HALLY, HAALLY, or HELLY

 

By the way, general 76 orbital year it's doubtful because it can be also 75 years isn't ?

 

75.3 a

  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet 

 

 

it's doubtful
 

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No; Alif is a double A

 

is not Islam; is islAAm

 

 

Oh, so you believe "I'm playing with words". DNA or DNO  :rolleyes:

 

not true, Alif is one letter, not two letters AA

 

and if yo ustill continue to insist in that show us proof that one letter Alif is like two AA, if you insist in your claims without proof i will delete your posts , just so you know that.

 

 

Oh, so you believe "I'm playing with words". DNA or DNO 

 

if there is something called DNO and something wich can support it from the text or the chapter and verse position, then show me

 

you dont remeber what i told you today, when i claim something i have backup to support it what i claim, for me it would not mean anything letters DNA if they where not on correct position

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H,A,L,L,Y 

 

The alif ALONE (without connection to the letter before of after) is a double a (AA). If you take after the H, then it can be A or another vowel, because there's no diacritics.

 

HALLY, HAALLY, or HELLY

 

By the way, general 76 orbital year it's doubtful because it can be also 75 years isn't ?

 

75.3 a

  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet 

 

 

it's doubtful
 

 

i say Alif stand for one letter not two letters, get this once for all.

 

next time you insist i want clear proof from you for that and if you dont bring it your post will be deleted

 

 

NASA website

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2015/01may_halleyids/

 

May 5, 2015:  As May of 2015 unfolds, Halley's Comet is more than 5 billion kilometers from Earth, receding into the inky blackness of the outer solar system, where its looping orbit takes it every 76 years.  Dim and distant, history's most famous comet won't be back until sometime in 2061.

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i say Alif stand for one letter not two letters, get this once for all.

 

next time you insist i want clear proof from you for that and if you dont bring it your post will be deleted

 

Deleted?

 

You are very tolerant with differents views !! 

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i say Alif stand for one letter not two letters, get this once for all.

 

next time you insist i want clear proof from you for that and if you dont bring it your post will be deleted

 

 

NASA website

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2015/01may_halleyids/

 

May 5, 2015:  As May of 2015 unfolds, Halley's Comet is more than 5 billion kilometers from Earth, receding into the inky blackness of the outer solar system, where its looping orbit takes it every 76 years.  Dim and distant, history's most famous comet won't be back until sometime in 2061.

 

It can't be orbit every 76 years if It can be orbit sometimes every 75 years

 

Halley's Comet or Comet Halley (/ˈhæli/ or /ˈhli/), officially designated 1P/Halley,[2] is a short-period comet visible from Earth every 75–76 years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet

 

and 1682 moved in almost identical orbits and were separated by intervals of roughly 75 years.  (http://cometography.com/pcomets/001p.html)

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Halley's Comet is arguably the most famous comet. It is a "periodic" comet and returns to Earth's vicinity about every 75 years, making it possible for a human to see it twice in his or her lifetime. The last time it was here was in 1986, and it is projected to return in 2061  

 

http://www.space.com/19878-halleys-comet.html

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Welcome To Islaam http://islaam.faithweb.com/
 
Arabic 'islām (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Islaam); the ā is a double a (AA)
 
You can deny if you want, it will change nothing

 

 

no, it is written with one letter A, but sometime it is pronaonced longer so it feels like two AA, but it is written with 1 letter, remember this, one letter written only.

 

and even if it was, written with two AA,

 

HAALLY, it would still be connected to Halley, beacuse you need to use existing words, so connecting two words ALYH ALLYH next to each other and place it on correct positon you actually program scientific fact.

 

Do you expect God to use exactly word Halley, and then nobody would understand what it means in all generations, but now we have double programed text, by using existing words

 

let me give you an example

 

 

Let me give you an example how quran numemrical programming works.

 

Let say i write a sentence:

 

Chapter 18, Sentence 65

Edna was a beautiful girl, who lived in Ednabelle city 

 

let say i know future, so even though i gave some information about this girl Edna in Ednabelle, i also choose to place this at position

Chapter 18, Sentence 65,i choose to place letters DNA only at this place in the whole book out of 6236 sentences.

 

to correspond the year in future when science of DNA will be officially started in year 1865

 

this is how quranic nummerical programming works, giving double information

 

what is the chance that this occur by coincidence

 

it is 1/6236 = 0.00016 %

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Deleted?

 

You are very tolerant with differents views !! 

 

i am tolerant if you give clear and valid proofs, but you dont bring any so far, and if you claim without proof that i cant tolerate.

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It can't be orbit every 76 years if It can be orbit sometimes every 75 years

 

Halley's Comet or Comet Halley (/ˈhæli/ or /ˈheɪli/), officially designated 1P/Halley,[2] is a short-period comet visible from Earth every 75–76 years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet

 

and 1682 moved in almost identical orbits and were separated by intervals of roughly 75 years.  (http://cometography.com/pcomets/001p.html)

 

did i not tell, you before, it varied trough history 6 different years, from 74, 75, 76, 77, 78 and 79 this is beacuse of gravitational fields of sun and planets

 

but normally it has its orbit 76 years, do you understand this?

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I will continue this debate with you ONLY if we considere ALIF being double AA. 

 

In case of Alif a "Hamza" is used and then the short vowel is placed on top of it. The sound is a single beat and no further elongation is required. http://www.central-mosque.com/index.php/Arabic/rules-of-tajweed.html

 

OK ? Do you agree? Then we continue.

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did i not tell, you before, it varied trough history 6 different years, from 74, 75, 76, 77, 78 and 79 this is beacuse of gravitational fields of sun and planets

 

but normally it has its orbit 76 years, do you understand this?

 

Do you understand that being an irrefutable miracle it must be one which no one can discuss them. It must be a clear proof. 

 

Do you understand that is normally 76 years but sometimes is 75 and God only make perfect things, no ones which can be ignored?

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Halley's Comet is arguably the most famous comet. It is a "periodic" comet and returns to Earth's vicinity about every 75 years, making it possible for a human to see it twice in his or her lifetime. The last time it was here was in 1986, and it is projected to return in 2061  

 

http://www.space.com/19878-halleys-comet.html

 

 

NASA says it is 76 years

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2015/01may_halleyids/

 

Encyclopedia britannica says also 76 years

http://global.britannica.com/topic/Halleys-Comet

 

Another astronomical site say it is 76 years

http://solarviews.com/eng/halley.htm

 

MOst popular astronomy site Universetoday says it is 76 years

http://www.universetoday.com/48991/halleys-comet/

 

if it comes 75 that is only due to the gravitational impact on its normal orbit

http://www.universetoday.com/48991/halleys-comet/

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I will continue this debate with you ONLY if we considere ALIF being double AA. 

 

In case of Alif a "Hamza" is used and then the short vowel is placed on top of it. The sound is a single beat and no further elongation is required. http://www.central-mosque.com/index.php/Arabic/rules-of-tajweed.html

 

OK ? Do you agree? Then we continue.

 

i told you it is only one written Alif, even your site wich you posted above say it is one alif =a

 

Letter Sound Transliteration End Middle Beginning Isolated (Original) Form

’alif

ā

ـا

ـا

ا

ا

 

i just dont know where you get two AA from, when we all can see that it is one alif written there, and even if it was i told, you it would still mean halley, cant you uderstand this? 

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Do you understand that being an irrefutable miracle it must be one which no one can discuss them. It must be a clear proof. 

 

Do you understand that is normally 76 years but sometimes is 75 and God only make perfect things, no ones which can be ignored?

 

if you are to choose wich verse to put those letter, where would you put them, i would put it in verse 76 since it is normal orbit of the halley comet.

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Andalusi has destroyed u all.  u people are embarrassing yourself now.

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i told you it is only one written Alif, even your site wich you posted above say it is one alif =a

 

Letter Sound Transliteration End Middle Beginning Isolated (Original) Form

’alif

ā

ـا

ـا

ا

ا

 

i just dont know where you get two AA from, when we all can see that it is one alif written there, and even if it was i told, you it would still mean halley, cant you uderstand this? 

 

because ā is an A with macron, is prononced large, like AA

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