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Yawn, can't believe this thread is still going. Every book has numerical probabilities that some wish to pass of as "numerical miracles". I think the member Russell showed that fact way back in this thread.

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Then give me proofs about your Bible predictions

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وَقِيلَ يَا أَرْضُ ابْلَعِي مَاءَكِ وَيَا سَمَاءُ أَقْلِعِي وَغِيضَ الْمَاءُ وَقُضِيَ الْأَمْرُ وَاسْتَوَتْ عَلَى الْجُودِيِّ ۖ وَقِيلَ بُعْدًا لِّلْقَوْمِ الظَّالِمِينَ  (http://quran.com/11/44)

 

And it was said, "O earth, swallow your water, and O sky, withhold [your rain]." And the water subsided, and the matter was accomplished, and the ship came to rest on the [mountain of] Judiyy. And it was said, "Away with the wrongdoing people."

Mount Judi (Arabicالجوديّ‎ al-ǦūdiyyAramaicקרדו‎ Qardū,[1] KurdishCûdî‎,Syriacܩܪܕܘ‎ Qardū,[1] TurkishCudi), according to very Early Christian andIslamic tradition (based on the Qur'anHud:44), is Noah's apobaterion or "Place of Descent", the location where the Ark came to rest after the Great Flood. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Judi)

 

Resting place of Noah's Ark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Ararat)

 

 

 

Coordinates

 

17px-WMA_button2b.png39°42.113′N 44°17.899′E [3]

 

this is not good, 44 is not enough, you need more numbers to match cordinates, to just pick some part of the cordinates is not enough,

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And from those who say, "We are Christians" We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do. (http://quran.com/5/14)

 

They said, "O Moses, indeed we will not enter it, ever, as long as they are within it; so go, you and your Lord, and fight. Indeed, we are remaining right here." http://quran.com/5/24

 

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment, http://quran.com/5/33

 

 

And the Jews say, "The hand of Allah is chained." Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both His hands are extended; He spends however He wills. And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. And We have cast among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. Every time they kindled the fire of war [against you], Allah extinguished it. And they strive throughout the land [causing] corruption, and Allah does not like corrupters. (http://quran.com/5/64)

 

Well, this chapter [5] have 1804 words.

 

If we add 14 + 24 + 33 + 64 + 1804 it gives us 1939

 

1939 was the year in which started Second World War, indeed a fire of war

 

i think this is also far fetched :(

 

we need to be loigcal in our numerical miracle presentations.

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i think this is also far fetched :(

 

we need to be loigcal in our numerical miracle presentations.

 

Far retched???

 

Are you stupid? 

 

Bring me similar connections if there are "far-retched"

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Then give me proofs about your Bible predictions

What predictions? You mean biblical prophecies or numerical "miracles". I believe number seven has some biblical significance, but I'm not really interested enough to look into it in any detail. It's not in itself a sign of divinity, otherwise we'd be of the opinion that all books that show the same mathematical probabilities are of divine origin. They are not. Why does Your faith in God hinge of having to prove these kind of "miracles" isn't faith enough?

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Example of how numerical prophecies work in Quran

 

Nuclear bomb example

 

banuclearious  had a friend called sobomnious  ................

 

 

so lets say the first nuclear bomb  was made in 1945

 

so lets say that sentence was ONLY MENTIONED in chapter 19:45 AND NOWHERE ELSE then its not a coincidence.If that sentence was mentioned elsewhere or the 2 words are mentioned together elsewhere then we can call it a coincidence.

 

So its not actually about the words itself its about the PLACEMENT where it is  .

 

One can say 19:45 could of talked about ANY other topic theres thousands of topics why use the word nuclear n bom in the same sentence so the Turkey e.g why does it mention turkey n tayib at the same time it could of just used the word Turkey why both together it could of been about any other topic.

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Example of how numerical prophecies work in Quran

 

Nuclear bomb example

 

banuclearious  had a friend called sobomnious  ................

 

 

so lets say the first nuclear bomb  was made in 1945

 

so lets say that sentence was ONLY MENTIONED in chapter 19:45 AND NOWHERE ELSE then its not a coincidence.If that sentence was mentioned elsewhere or the 2 words are mentioned together elsewhere then we can call it a coincidence.

 

So its not actually about the words itself its about the PLACEMENT where it is  .

 

One can say 19:45 could of talked about ANY other topic theres thousands of topics why use the word nuclear n bom in the same sentence so the Turkey e.g why does it mention turkey n tayib at the same time it could of just used the word Turkey why both together it could of been about any other topic.

 

exactly :yes:

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Evidence from QuranCode program


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where can i verify 450 words?

 

 

 

is it from beginning to the WORD iron or to verse 25?

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Evidence from QuranCode program

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where can i verify 450 words?

 

 

 

is it from beginning to the WORD iron or to verse 25?

 

 

evidence, copy this orginal text of the quran , from the begining of the chapter iron to the verse 57:25, there are 450 words

 

Sabbaha

lillahi ma fee alssamawati waalardi

wahuwa alAAazeezu alhakeemu

 

Lahu mulku alssamawati

waalardi yuhyee wayumeetu wahuwa AAala kulli shayin

qadeerun

 

Huwa alawwalu waalakhiru

waalththahiru waalbatinu wahuwa

bikulli shayin Aaaleemun

 

Huwa allathee

khalaqa alssamawati waalarda fee sittati ayyamin

thumma istawa AAala alAAarshi yaAAlamu ma yaliju fee alardi

wama yakhruju minha wama yanzilu mina alssamai

wama yaAAruju feeha wahuwa maAAakum ayna ma kuntum waAllahu

bima taAAmaloona baseerun

 

Lahu mulku alssamawati

waalardi waila Allahi turjaAAu alomooru

 

Yooliju allayla

fee alnnahari wayooliju alnnahara fee allayi wahuwa

AAaleemun bithati alssudoori

 

Aminoo biAllahi warasoolihi

waanfiqoo mimma jaAAalakum mustakhlafeena feehi faallatheena

amanoo minkum waanfaqoo lahum ajrun kabeerun

 

Wama lakum

la tuminoona biAllahi waalrrasoolu yadAAookum

lituminoo birabbikum waqad akhatha meethaqakum in kuntum mumineena

 

Huwa allathee

yunazzilu AAala AAabdihi ayatin bayyinatin

liyukhrijakum mina alththulumati ila alnnoori

wainna Allaha bikum laraoofun raheemun

 

Wama lakum

alla tunfiqoo fee sabeeli Allahi walillahi meerathu

alssamawati waalardi la yastawee

minkum man anfaqa min qabli alfathi waqatala olaika aAAthamu

darajatan mina allatheena anfaqoo min baAAdu waqataloo wakullan

waAAada Allahu alhusna waAllahu bima

taAAmaloona khabeerun

 

Man tha

allathee yuqridu Allaha qardan hasanan fayudaAAifahu

lahu walahu ajrun kareemun

 

Yawma tara

almumineena waalmuminati yasAAa nooruhum bayna aydeehim

wabiaymanihim bushrakumu alyawma jannatun tajree min tahtiha

alanharu khalideena feeha thalika huwa alfawzu

alAAatheemu

 

Yawma yaqoolu

almunafiqoona waalmunafiqatu lillatheena amanoo

onthuroona naqtabis min noorikum qeela irjiAAoo waraakum

failtamisoo nooran faduriba baynahum bisoorin lahu babun batinuhu

feehi alrrahmatu wathahiruhu min qibalihi

alAAathabu

 

Yunadoonahum

alam nakun maAAakum qaloo bala walakinnakum fatantum

anfusakum watarabbastum wairtabtum wagharratkumu alamaniyyu

hatta jaa amru Allahi wagharrakum biAllahi

algharooru

 

Faalyawma

la yukhathu minkum fidyatun wala mina allatheena

kafaroo mawakumu alnnaru hiya mawlakum wabisa almaseeru

 

Alam yani lillatheena

amanoo an takhshaAAa quloobuhum lithikri Allahi wama

nazala mina alhaqqi wala yakoonoo kaallatheena

ootoo alkitaba min qablu fatala AAalayhimu alamadu faqasat

quloobuhum wakatheerun minhum fasiqoona

 

IAAlamoo anna Allaha

yuhyee alarda baAAda mawtiha qad bayyanna lakumu alayati

laAAallakum taAAqiloona

 

Inna almussaddiqeena

waalmussaddiqati waaqradoo Allaha qardan

hasanan yudaAAafu lahum walahum ajrun kareemun

 

Waallatheena

amanoo biAllahi warusulihi olaika humu alssiddeeqoona

waalshshuhadao AAinda rabbihim lahum ajruhum wanooruhum waallatheena

kafaroo wakaththaboo biayatina olaika ashabu

aljaheemi

 

IAAlamoo annama

alhayatu alddunya laAAibun walahwun wazeenatun

watafakhurun baynakum watakathurun fee alamwali waalawladi

kamathali ghaythin aAAjaba alkuffara nabatuhu thumma yaheeju

fatarahu musfarran thumma yakoonu hutaman wafee alakhirati

AAathabun shadeedun wamaghfiratun mina Allahi waridwanun

wama alhayatu alddunya illa mataAAu

alghuroori

 

Sabiqoo ila

maghfiratin min rabbikum wajannatin AAarduha kaAAardi alssamai

waalardi oAAiddat lillatheena amanoo biAllahi

warusulihi thalika fadlu Allahi yuteehi man yashao

waAllahu thoo alfadli alAAatheemi

 

Ma asaba

min museebatin fee alardi wala fee anfusikum illa

fee kitabin min qabli an nabraaha inna thalika AAala

Allahi yaseerun

 

Likayla

tasaw AAala ma fatakum wala tafrahoo bima

atakum waAllahu la yuhibbu kulla

mukhtalin fakhoorin

 

Allatheena

yabkhaloona wayamuroona alnnasa bialbukhli waman yatawalla

fainna Allaha huwa alghaniyyu alhameedu

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before verse 12:43 when it says I saw seven fat cows , whom seven lean devouring

 

before this verse cow is mentioned  7 times, and if we think that seven lean are calf (small cow) , calf is menionted at least that wich is alive also 7 times with exception of one time when it is reasted calf, (dead calf)

 

before this verse 12:43 seven ears are mentioned also 1 time, 

 

before this verse 12:43 word dry (yabis) mentioned once

 

so we can conclude that numerically mentioned different words before this verse 12:43 match the verse.

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Brother Andalusi what do u think of this 1?

Let us consider this simple fact. When inspecting the verses of the Holy Quran we find that the word God, Arabic: Allah, الله appears 2673 times up to and before chapter number 76 "Human being", Arabic: Alansn (الإنسن). At the same time we find that there are exactly 2673 verses up to chapter number 23 "The Believers", Arabic: Almoa'mnon (المؤمنون).

 

But how do these numbers relate ?!

Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes. These chromosomes contain the genetic information needed for the development and functioning of the human body. These 23 chromosome pairs are that which make us humans.

 

 

Pay attention how the number of verses up to chapter 23 "The Believers" (المؤمنون) and the number of occurrences of the word God - Allah - الله up to chapter 76 "Human being" c match. Can this be due to coincidence?! No, here we are dealing with a really huge number (bigger than 2,500). The same 2673 occurrences of the word God - Allah - الله up to chapter 76 "Human being" (المؤمنون) relate in additional and interesting ways to human chromosome number -

 

 

 

But what is so special about the number 2673  itself ?!

Interestingly 2673 is equal to 243 × 11 ...

243 is the number of words in chapter 76 "Human being" (الإنسن). This number is equal to 9² + 9² + 9². The interesting thing is that the 9th prime number in universe is 23 (human chromosome pair number!). Prime numbers: are natural numbers (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ..) that are divisible only by themselves and one. The first few primes are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13..

11 is a well accepted value of God himself in the Holy Quran (as derived by studies of God's own names and descriptions in Scripture). The 11th prime number in universe is 31, which equals the number of verses in chapter 76 "Human being" (الإنسن). Remarkably enough, the 31st composite number in universe is 46 (human chromosome number). In fact, chapter 76 "Human being" (الإنسن) is the only chapter in the whole Quran that consists of exactly 31 verses! Composite numbers: are natural numbers (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ..) that are divisible by numbers other than themselves and one. The first few composite numbers are 4, 6, 8, 9, 10..

Is not it clear that this Book is a revelation by the master of the heavens and earth. Only the Creator can do all of this, already 1430 years ago. Evidence for God's existence is available and I encourage you all. believers and non-believers, to read more about creation, life, Scripture and God the Merciful.

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i dont know what to think about it i dont udnerstand it, so i dont know what to think about it, nor can i verify it so easy.

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muslim4life7, on 26 May 2016 - 18:13, said:

Not good enough wheres the Quran and the Muslims?

this is about previous scriptures and nations, not about quran and muslims.

 

It's like if you count Human and all Components and they came the same.

Than you say "Not good enough where are the Animals?"

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"Have you not considered how Allah presents an example, [making] a good word like a
good tree, whose root is firmly fixed and its branches [high] in the sky?-It
produces its fruit all the time, by permission of its Lord. And Allah presents examples for the people that perhaps they will be reminded."


Share this information please; Post it everywhere. And correct the faults in grammar, too. Keep the text format.

The number 19 in the Quran claimed as a test for the believer and disbeliever.
74:30
" Over it are 19 " 74:31
The number has the power to increase the faith of the believers and convincing the
Jews and the Christians people who seek the truth that this is a divine book,
removing all doubts in the mind of the believers that this book can't possibly
be man made and ultimately we and disbelievers will ask what does God mean by
this example of 19.

How the 19 code are related to verse 18:25 to Romans Lunar 355 year day calendar.

The Romans introduced 365 after the 355 for that to happen was what described
adding months according to the metonic cycle(You need to synchronize it with the season, so they used the last months acording to the Metonic 19 year cycle to synchronize with there new calendar; Julian Calendar. The averaged value of the lunar cycle is 353.36, the orbital sidereal year for the solar cylce is 365.24 days. So going from lunar to solar is 1.030, the ratio. 365.24/353.36 = 1.030.

In verse 18:25 it speaks of 309 year change; "They remained in their cave 300 years exceeded by nine" correspondace of time 309 / 300 and that shows 1.030 which is the solar cycle
and lunar cycle orbital period ratio. Meaning that the for obtaining equal
amount of time in one orbital year of the earth we, is 1.03 greater than the
lunar cycle to abtain the same amount of period. This also shows the conversion
of time, as the romans did with converting lunar year count 355 days numa
calendar over to the solar calendar, adding months such that 19 years equals
235 lunar months, and that this new calendar is arrived from the 19 metonic
cycle. Either way it shows that when the Quran mentions numbers it is not
without purpose, mentioning 300 years added nine had a special meaning. And in
the real sense this amount of time actually reflects a bigger meaning that just
showing the this solar and lunar cycle; it is the fact that this number
actually shows the change in society happening over a number of years. People
had made models according to Edward he found 300 year cycles in religion ( a
secondary wave from the longer cycle) while another man named Martin Armstrong
found a period of 309 year cycle in religion too.

So why did I mention 19? Because the number 19 has special function into converting and calculating time from Lunar calendar to Solar calendar. And it was perfectly illustrated in verse 18:25 ; with the 1.030 ratio, shown. So it functions as the metonic cycle.



Because this single revelation in Chapter 96 puts great emphasis on seeking knowledge
(thought by the pen) and only with the knowledge you can guide yourself and see
the signs that are in the Quran that is meant to be known just as God hinted us
in chapter 74: The Hidden. This point I will use to later deduce a connection
with Martins Armstrong work with the Quran in The Chapter The Romans and The
Cave (Roman Youths) Numbers are not said without reasons.





Also the God in the Quran says the greatest evidence that Quran is the word of God
is the number 19 and in the signs of the heavens that are put there to test
humans in faith; IF you reject this you deny the GODS word. In the Quran. Why would he say that it is a test for Mankind. Why would he make a big deal out of swearing by the moon and the Sun? I will present the evidence below why.



(10:5) He is the one who made the sun a
shining light and the moon a [reflected] light, and assigned to it phases, that
you may know the number of years and how to calculate. God did not create that
except in truth. These are signs for the people of knowledge

So use of the Moon and the sun is used to calculate time precisely. The metonic cycle with the perfect multiple of 19 year solar cycle corresponds eqaully and pricesly to 235 Lunar month. IT is used for conversion of time between Solar and Lunar calendar, as the Greeks(Athens) and Romans used it.


(74:30) Over it are 19

(74:31)[57
worded verse explains  the number 19
while increase  faith(in that this is the
word of God), as well as to remove all doubt from those who received the
book(jews and christians) and the believers; So basically it has the power to increase faith.

(74:32) No, by the moon! //See the connection? The Moon is introduced
(74:33) And the night as it nears its end.
(74:34) And the morning as it shines. // This is the alternation of day and night and the sun; So movement of the sun and the orbit of earth.
(74:35) This is one of the greatest (signs)

As God promises in the Quran usually the promises is a point for the argument he
makes. So the test of 19, which is about the relationship between the sun and
the moon and the alternation between the night and the day and we shall focus
only on this area. And the 19 is his promise because itself proof God devinely designed the orbit and calculated it precisely to get this correspondance 18:25 (1.030) Solar vs Lunar, and 19 year cycle;
Statement repeated again.
(10:5) He is the one who made the sun a shining light and the moon a [reflected] light, and assigned to it phases, that
you may know the number of years and how to calculate. God did not create that
except in truth. These are signs for the people of knowledge

Divinely designed mathematical alignment:

365.2425 days (1 solar year) x 19 years = 6939.6075 days. 235 lunar months x 29.53059 days (1 lunar month) = 6939.68865 days "Astonishingly, 19 solar years are shorter than 235 lunar months by only about 2 hours! Such is the level of precision of this divinely designed alignment. This 19-year lunar cycle became known as the Metonic cycle, and was the basis for the Greek calendar until the Julian calendar was introduced in 46 BC. Since 12 lunar months, is about 11 days less than a solar year, an additional   lunar months were added to synchronize the cycle, conversion to lunar" The mathematics behind finding multiples of 19 are prone to errors and misinterpretations, but we cannot deny some multiple occurs, like the explaintion of the power of 19 it self, has 57 words which a mulitple of 19, or the fact over every chapter Basmallah has 19 letters. And many other correspondances. But we have to be careful to not over interpet.
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MARTIN ARMSTRONG MODEL OF 309 YEAR CHANGE IN RELIGION AND SHIFT POWER OF NATIONS; AND HOW IT RELATES TO THE QURAN THE CAVE CHAPTER AND THE ROMAN CHAPTER
Here I would Like to introduce Martins work;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MP2QaT2A_A Watch this video and come back.
So bassically Martin Made a model based on Pi waves to predict the future in stock markets and events around the world. He made Princeton Economics his company was so succesful he made trillions of dollars of transaction possible. The CIA; FBI wanted his model and he bassically said no, thrown in prison, beaten and in coma, went out of the prison after he was forced to release all his assets(i.e. the model and the Roman coins he used to make his model)
 
This section I will not try to explain what his model is about but let Martin Himself explain. So here I will present with some qoutes starting with >>" ".
 
How he first found it and why it the number is significant;  I discovered the Business Cycle back in the 1970s quite unintentional.
I had begun  by looking at financial panics. How many were there? Why did they happen? I had gathered everything I could find. I found 26 such panics between 1683 and 1907 - a span of 224 years. I then did a simple calculation to determine the average. It produced the number to be precisely 8.6153846615.
 
8.6153846615. << IMPORTANT; IT is the 5'th secqeunce in the fibonanci sequence(GODs design of golden ratio) The NUmber 0.6153846615 is 8/13 the third and the fourth number in the golden ratio secquence; So it is part of nature. The real value of producing Pi and what he found in his coins model; is 8.6 years, averaged so that is 365.24 days * 8.6 = 3141 = Pi * 1000 days
                    

1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144, 233 

>>MY WORDS ALSO 13/21 = 0.619 

 

 
I began to explore the time series to try to comprehend what caused them. I could see throughout history that nations and .empires always rose and fell. There had to be some explanation as to why such states just expire. I began to notice that even politics flowed in a cyclical nature; Sudden shocks economically seemed to even spread like a contaigon around the globe. I noticed that war were similar. If-one takes the American Revolution, you see the trend feeds France. The revolution in England in 1689 spreads to a revolution in Eussia. The examples are endless. Even going back to ancient times, the Komans overthrew their Tarquin kings in 509BC setting up a Republic while in Athens in 508BC Democracy was born.
 
My studies led me to see great waves of structured trends that built into groups of 6 waves of intensity(volatility) forming major waves of 51.6 years (6x 8.6). I further began to see that how the economyc reacted different on an alter- nating basis between Public and Private Confidence. When the people trusted the state, volatility was lower almost feudal inasmuch that when an invader appeared, one could run behind the walls of the castle. Private waves produced far greater innovation where self-interests fueled progress creating exponential economic advancement. For example, the last 3 highs of the 51.6 year cycle were 1878.15, 1929.75, and 1981.35. The first was a Public wave filled with civil war and great expansion of government. The next wave saw the boom from the railroads and the innovation of the car. The last was a Public wave peaking in 1981.35 marking the peak in the New Deal with escalating inflation and perpetual deficit spending.
 
<< AT THE END OF EVERY 51.6 year cycle we have a crises, increase in interets rates and financial panics, increase in volitily (i.e. uncertianty fast upswings and down) Time for debt repayment;
 
 
The 8.6 year cycle I have written before contains 3,141 days that forms the cycle or circle so to speak equal in numer to Pi x 1000. I also explained that I did not discover this from Pi, but later discovered Pi in trying to figure out its accuracy. I explained that the cycle was discovered from a study of the number of financial panics between 1683 and 1907 that was a total time period of 224 years. There were 26 panics within that 224 year period that produced 8.615384615. It was later discovered that these individual waves built-up into groups of 6 producing a major wave of 51.692 years that was very close to the observations of Kondratieff. I also tested this back in time forming a group of 6 waves again that produced the major wave of 309.6 years
 
>> COMEPLETLY UNINTENTIONALLY he found the same interestsrates debt cycle the observations of Kondratieff, 54 year waves; I.e. points to the correct model. His model is more precise because the 51.6 year waves builds in waves to complete a 309.6 year cycle.
 
>> 8.6 year cycle is confidence rise and fall, whatever market be it Goverment or private, or even religion confidence or even scientific relvolutions.
Each has a 4.3 year rise in confidence and fall in confidence 4.3; so 4.3+4.3 equals 8.6 year.
 
>>WHAT IS THE 309 year cycle? WHat does it mean? HOW DOES IT RELATE TO THE QURAN?
 
 
 
It was cyclical and only a matter of time before the other side grabs power for their turn. Great Revolt 138. So they will raise taxes until the people get mad as hell and refuse to take it any more. The first tax revolt in England was that of Wat Tyler in 1381. The first interval of 309 years was 1690 when because of taxes and a shortage of money in America, on February 3rd, 1690, the very first paper money was issued by the colony of Massachusetts and on December 10th that same year, they became the first American colonial government to borrow money starting national debts. Add another 309 years and you get the birth of the Euro "
>>Power TURNS LIKE A ENDLESS WHEEL. There is 309 year change in power in civilisation some civilisation fall others rise, even greater in Power.So the intensity of the 309 year wave increases as times goes. As he says in the end, and fall down more spectacularly. It is a law, and it follows the smaller 8.6 year cycles. The last cycle of the 309 year wave(36 x8.6 ) is where the empire collapses. Like the Romans see link;
 
Chapter The Romans
30:9 Have they not traveled through the earth and observed how was the end of those before them? They were GREATER than them in POWER, and they plowed the earth and built it up more than THEY have built it up, and their messengers came to them with clear evidences. And Allah would not ever have wronged them, but they were wronging themselves.
 
>>(said in verse 30:9 i.e. 309 year ECM power shift description) 
 
309 YEAR CHANGE IN RELIGION FOR THE ROMAN YOUTH
 
 
The Roman youths
 
18:20 Indeed, if they come to know of you, they will stone you or return you to their religion. And never would you succeed, then - ever."
18:25 "They remained in their cave 300 years exceeded by 9"
 
 
Change in religion occurred for the roman youth over 309 years. The romans youths were persecuted for not following polytheism, ROMAN GODS, and DIVINE MEN. God made them sleep for "309 years" and they woke up society had changed. Also not only that but it shows the lunar solar correspondance, 309/300 = 1.030;
 
>> (that is the reason why the verse said 300 and 309 ) or the more scientific way 365.24 (sidereal yaer)/ 354.36 = 1.030.
 
>> A perfect match THIS IS ALSO THE 19 year correspondance of SOLAR year = LUNAR YEAR thus 19 SOLAR year = 235 LUNAR months A PERFECT MULTIPLE
 
 
309 year RELIGION CYLE ACORDING TO MARTIN HIMSELF!
This is Martins article on 309 year change in religion. 
 
 
AND QOUTE "There is a 309.6 year cycle in religion that has been extraordinarily regular and that includes ALL religions not just Islam. This is of course amplified by economic downturns." ENDQUOTE MARTIN
 
 
 
THE WAR CYCLE
>> The sun has even its own cycles of 300 year waves and alligns with Martins war cycle of 25.02 years; Peace in the top of the cycle and fall in the lowest;(25.02x4)x3 = 300 years
>> The sun has smaller cyles of 11.6 years; which is 100 year/8.6 year = 11.6 units of cycles of 8.6 years. The 100 year cycle is also alligning with the war cycle of Martin. Wheeler found a 100 year war cycle to. But martin disagrees, the 100 year war cycle only allings with Martins 25.02 year cyce.
>> Coicidentently the 25 year cycle of the sun is it's orbital sidereal year.
 
>> The Quran mentions day in all forms 475 times; that is 25 x 19, 19 is the number which is the Miracle number and it is told to be the greatest sign, swears on the moon and the shining sun and the alternations of the day and night(ie days) 25 days is the orbtial period of the sun, around it self. Martin was courius why it was the 25 year cycle, in war and political change.
 
>> Day WITHOUT any prefix and SINGULAR is mentioned 365 times SOLAR CALENDAR

THE STORY OF UZAIR AND WAR CIVILISATION IN RUINS;
http://cyclesresearchinstitute.org/cycles-research/weather/wheeler/


The 100-year war cycle also appearing in the Quran; In surah The Cow, Similar to the account of the Roman youth, sleeping, Uzair is also sleeping;  The city in ruin because of War;

>> Or as the one who passed by a township which had fallen into ruin. He said, "How will Allah bring this to life after its death?" So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years; then He revived him. He said, "How long have you remained?" The man said, "I have remained a day or part of a day." He said, "Rather, you have remained one hundred years(100 YEARS). Look at your food and your drink; it has not changed with time. And look at your donkey; and We will make you a sign for the people. And look at the bones [of this donkey] - how We raise them and then We cover them with flesh." And when it became clear to him, he said, "I know that Allah is over all things competent."

>> Martin found also 100-year alignment of war in his model; but found smaller cycles of 25.02 years; i.e. 25x4 = 100 years. 
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/what-is-the-300-year-convergence-in-the-war-cycle

>> MARTIN COMMENT ON TAX ROMAN
"Calendars based upon the moon cycle of 19 years, known as the Metonic Cycle named after Meton of Athens in 432BC or the solar cycle of 365.25 days or the 28 year cycle when the same day repeats with the same number under the Julian Calendar, have created interesting math calculations. The Julian calendar Cycle = 7,980 years produced by 19 x 28 x 15  "The last 15- year cycle--is—the-Roman-tax-and-census-cycle of Indiction."

>> THE ROMANS IN THE QURAN AND THE 8.6 year CYCLE! AND IN THE BIBLE TORAH PROMISE LAND OF israel EXODUS!
>> What I found that in the Bible as angels mentioned about 1290 weeks period, that is his number, of 300 x 4.3 (the confidence peak) and the full cycle of 8.6-year confidence(crash) 150 x 8.6 = 1290, so it perfectly adds up.

 

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/the-8-6-seems-to-be-in-religious-texts-as-well/

>> And he commented on this  

>> He said "  Fascinating. Another has pointed out that 430 is an important number from the Bible. As the story goes, God told Abraham in a vision that his descendants through Isaac would end up as slaves in a foreign country. God would, however, release them from this bondage after 400 years (Genesis 15:12 – 16). Exactly 430 years later to the very day, on the same night, this prophecy was fulfilled as the children of israel left Egypt on the 15th day of the first month (Exodus 12:40 – 41). So I was told that this number has worked to the very day before"

>> Peak in confidence as they reached they land of israel over the sea. What does he mean by 430 years? So 430 year is also part of his model, that is for the longer wave cycle of 860 years, and the smaller 86, and the more frequent 8.6-year cycles in confidence. So the confidence peaked when they reached israel at 430 years, and then starts to fall completing the 860-year cycle. So inflow of confidence top of the wave 4.3 and fall in confidence 4.3 (4.3+4.3=8.6)   Their is also a 86 year is a sovereign debt cycle;

THE 309 YEAR MODEL BUILD OF SIX DEBT REPAYMENT CYCLES of 51.6 YEARS!
>> THE QURAN JUST LIKE IN 30:9 DISCRIPTIONO OF ECM MODEL in VERSE 51:6

>> 51:6 "THE RECOMPENSE IS TO OCCUR" word DAYni is debt;
>> Interestingly 51.6 year cycle is where the debts are repaid and financial panics occurs, 1929 and 1985 read above.
>> 51:12 "When is the day of RECOMPENSE?" MEntioned exactly after 6 verses, thus 6*51.6 = 309.6 or 6*8.6 = 51.6




>> https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/history/europes-economic-history/greece-2017-sovereign-debt-cycle/

 And we saw the connection of his ECM model in verse 30:9 (The Romans) and (51:6) (smaller debt cycle)
>>And those two chapters have the same amount of verses, both 60;  Dividing by the verse number 30:60 / 60 and 51:60 / 60
30:60/60  = 51

>> Connecting to the 51 chapter(where the debt cycle is mentioned 51:6)

>> 51:60/60  = 86
>> https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/qa/the-86-year-cycle-is-all-around-us/

>> Is the long wave 8.6-year debt cycle. Normally currency is debased as to repay the over expenditures.  The 86 year cycle from analysis on the Roman Coins. 8.6 * 10, the 8.6 can also be build by longer cycle. As long as the wave comes back to the same spot it has the same effect. We shift it with a constant number. 100 * 8.6 = 860 is the longer debt cycle. As 430 year is the longer cycle of peak in confidence, see above as martin decribed this.

SILVER AND GOLD CONTENT; QUANTIFYING CONFIDENCE


>>THE 43 YEAR CONFIDENCE PEAK TO CONFIDENCE FALL 86 YEAR DEBT REPAYMENT
CHAPTER 30:60 HAS 817 WORDS
>> ONLY PRIME FACTORISATION 19x43 = 817
>> 43 IS THE PEAK IN CONFIDENCE IN COIN SILVER CONTENT SEE ABOVE LINK
>> Fall in conidence 86 year complete DEBT Has to be repayed, goverment debt.
>> Debasedment of the currency that is why THe Romans chapter 817/19 = 43 -->> to 86 51:60/60 = 86; THe number 30:60 / 60 = 51 pointed us to 51 Chapter spoken verse of debt repayment of the day when we have to repay our deeds, infront of GOD.
REFELCTS THE FALL in confidence 43 --> 86 year just as martins model

THE ROMANS AND USE OF 355 DAY LUNAR CALENDAR AND 365 DAY SOLAR CALENDAR

We saw 19 used above in the chapter, thus we see the connection with the Lunar cycle, ROmans used 355 days lunar cycle before solar cycle of 365 days.

>> 30:60 / 355 = 8.619
>> The fibonanci sequence so 21/13 = .6190 is one ratio above martins 8/13, 8.615
>> The 8.6 year cycle AND pi, MAritn used from ROMAN silver coins found 8.60 year cycles in confidence;


>> Debasement last 8.6 year cycle of the 309 year wave and HOW fast civilisation collapse in THE QURAN

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/understanding-cycles/monetary-unions-how-fast-can-they-collapse/
>> 8.6 year fast! Last cycle of the ROmans empire 309 year wave


30:9 MENTION OF THE ECM MODEL CYCLICAL POWER
30:42 REPEATS A STATEMENT OF " 30:42 Say, [O Muhammad], "Travel through the land and observe how was the end of those before. Most of them were associators [polytheits like Romans before christianity]."

The verse explains in detail how civilisation rise in power greater than the one before and it is a cycle of one falls other rises. The 30:42 statement is about how most nations that were destroyed were polytheistic in beliefs.

Just as we saw from the link above of how fast a civilisation can collapse in the last 309 year confidence wave of 8.6 year, we see this number apearing again.

We mentioned in the chapter the cave, about the roman youth how the correspondance of time is between the solar and lunar cycle. Similiarly the romans used the lunar cylce before going to the solar cycle. For that they need to synchronize time from going to solar cycle, they added months according to the metonic cycle. Few months. Not as much the greeks when they needed to synchronize their calendar with the solar calendar for the four season.

We have the julian solar calendar consiting of 30.42 average lunar month days 365/12 = 30.416 = 30.42
>> This is the same number 30:42 verse number, thus the verse also speaks of most nations that were destroyed were polythiestic. Most months according the the julian calendar month/30,42 days, have Names as June, May, January, March, all names of goddeses and gods. So that is why he made this emphahsis.

>> We include the verse 30:9 and the verse 30:42 and take the difference
30:42 - 30:9 = 2733 = 27.33 * 100

>> The 27.33 is the orbital sidereal period of the moon, hundred times that, it reaches the same spot, as it were in the begining, just as the 8.6 year wave to 86 year wave to 860 year wave. The difference of the real analytical value of the orbital period of the moon is 27.32 which is 10 mins. Normally nasa express this as the average 27.3 days because there is perturbations in the orbit, hard to measure. See there website.

// We see the connection to the moon again. Now we use the 309 year solar cycle to convert to the ROMANs (thus the chapter name THe ROmans) calendar of 355 days, from julian; as verse number 30:42, average julian calendar days.
>>http://http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=month

309*365/355 = convert to lunar

>> Divide the number 27.33*100/ 309*365/355 = 8.6024 = ratio
>> How much pi as martin calcuated his 8.6 year = 3141 days = pi*1000 see above martins exlplaination.
>> The Quranic irreducible ratio above is

64681/7519 * 365.2 => 3141.5 days= pi*1000 => 3.1415 = ratio*orbital period solar/1000

>> error from real value of pi ; ((3.1415 - pi)/pi)* 100 = 0.0005%

>>Conclusion the historical(before mordern techniques) basis for pi 355/113 approximation is 6 digits, the above number is 5 digits presicision. That tells you wether how much a coicidence this is. You decide. All the numbers used a constants, not variables.
>> 365.2 days nasa orbital sidereal period nasa ;
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/

>> IF we don't change 309 to lunar year
30:42-30:9 / 30:9 = 8.84 = 911/103
Which is ofcourse the amount of time in 8.6 year in Roman 355 year calendar.

>> more precise ratio is 64681/7519, 646 manhatten area, 81 floor south Tow nose of bird, 75 second digits name of bird, 19 idiots.
>> 911/103 >> 103 is the minutes of change happened in the event that horrific event lasted.

>>ECM NUMBERS martin https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/models/historical-turning-points-economic-confidence-model-6000bc-2072ad/ 

>> Pi year from the 8.6 year cycle peak in 1998.55; 1998.55 + 3.1415 = 2001.6958, on the day and on the hour.
>> Here is Martins comments; http://https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/russia-leaks-on-911-oops-didnt-think-of-that-one/
The ECM(309) numbers were already set in stone before the event. IT is just how the world works. Through a careful set of laws, in the universe. As martin says it; no coincidence in middle of such events.
>> 8.6 year cycles are set allready and are not changed. IT is just a computer model that predicts these changes. The last cycles of 309 year wave, is where change in views intensifiyies. Usually big events happens according to the 8.6 year cycles as we saw above, also the pi year from the peak, of the 8.6 year cycle. Each market has it's own cycle. Only those market that is very close to the ECM 309 wave, intensifies and expreince the greatest change.

For me personally the greatest miracles is not this, the greatest mircale is how god arranged the constellations the stars the moon and the sun to get these correspondances.

A proffesor named Shnoll found similiar events unfolding not in stock markets but radiactive decay of atoms, the speed in which it decays changes in cyclical manner of 365.2 days and 27.3 days lunar, and 24 hour period. The numbers used also for change in the Quran, especially the 27.3 and the 365.2 days.

Just as martin cyclical partern of 8.6 year cycle of the orbital year change 365.2 days; All seems to point to the effect when the orbital sidereal period is closed in. The effects are described in this paper;


http://http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2010/PP-22-05.PDF
God bless the land of honey and it's bright minds.


 

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. The Metonic cycle, the great chef d’oeuvre of astronomy: MORE 19 correspondances Copied from a website, I tested all of them

We saw in the commentary that verses 74:32-34 provide the clue regarding the test of 19, which is about the relationship between the sun and the moon and the alternation between the night and the day.

(74:32) No, by the moon! (74:33) And the night as it nears its end. (74:34) And the morning as it shines.

As shown for instance in verse 10:5 cited in the commentary, the sun and the moon are symbols that allow us “know the number of years and how to calculate”. The concept of days and years are key here, and we are going to see that the Quran is coded mathematically to reflect the reality of the solar system and how the sun and the moon are divinely designed to form a system ruled by number 19. 

In the solar system, the sun, the moon and our planet realign in the same relative position exactly every 19years, which, astonishingly, corresponds to the day to a perfect 235 lunar month cycle. This means for example that after exactly 19 years to the day, the new moons happen again at the same period of the year. 

Divinely designed mathematical alignment:

365.2425 days (1 solar year) x 19 years = 6939.6075 days. 

235 lunar months x 29.53059 days (1 lunar month) = 6939.68865 days

Astonishingly, 19 solar years are shorter than 235 lunar months by only about 2 hours! Such is the level of precision of this divinely designed alignment. 

If we divide 235 lunations by 19 years (235/19 = 12.368…), we get an average of 12 lunations per year, with a remainder of seven lunar months (19 x 12 = 228; 228 + 7 = 235 lunar months). In lunisolar calendars based on the Metonic cycle, most notably the modern Hebrew calendar, those seven months are distributed evenly among seven “leap” years. This technique perfectly adjusts lunar years to solar years over a period of 19 years. 

2.1 19 words “solar year” = Metonic cycle

 

Bearing in mind what we have just said, it is noteworthy that the word “sanat”, which means specifically “solar year” in Quranic Arabic (as the article “Solar Year/Lunar Year” proves it), is divided in 12 regular plurals (sineen = years = سنين, occurs 12 times) and seven singular forms (sanat = year = سنة). Therefore, the Quran contains 12 + 7 = 19 forms that are associated specifically with the concept of solar year, thus reflecting the 19 year Metonic cycle:

 

2:96 (سنة = year), 5:26 (سنة = year), 7:130 (السنين = the years), 10:5 (السنين = the years), 12:42 (سنين = years), 12:47 (سنين = years), 17:12 (السنين = the years), , 18:11 (سنين = years), 18:25 (سنين = years), 20:40 (سنين = years), 22:47 (سنة = year), 23:112 (سنين = years), 26:18 (سنين = years), 26:205 (سنين = years), 29:14 (سنة = year), 30:4 (سنين = years), 32:5 (سنة = year), 46:15 (سنة = year), 70:4 (سنة = year) = 19 occurrences (in 19 verses). 

It is noteworthy that the singular word “lunar year” (“Aam = عام) also occurs seven times in the Quran, possibly matching the seven leap years of 13 lunar months required for the lunar calendar to catch up with 19 solar years. 

 
 

2.2 “Sun” and “moon” intersect 19 times

The words "sun" and "moon" "intersect" exactly 19 times in 18 verses in the entire Quran (symbolizing the “intersection” or “reunion” of both calendars every 19 years):

6:96 (sun + moon); 7:54 (sun + moon), 10:5 (sun + moon), 12:4 (sun + moon), 13:2 (sun + moon), 14:33 (sun + moon), 16:12 (sun + moon), 21:33 (sun + moon), 22:18 (earth + sun + moon), 29:61 (sun + moon), 31:29 (sun + moon), 35:13 (sun + moon), 36:40 (sun + moon), 39:5 (sun + moon), 41:37 (sun + moon: twice), 55:5 (sun + moon), 71:16 (moon + sun), 75:9 (sun + moon) = 19 intersections. 

Out of these 19 "intersections" (19 words “sun” + 19 words “moon”), the words "Earth", "Sun" and "Moon" are mentioned consecutively (symbolizing an alignment) only once in verse 22:18, reflecting the 19 year cycle that realigns in the same relative position once every 19 years. More importantly, the meaning of the 19th and last intersection in the Quran of the words “sun” and “moon” (verse 75:9) is truly astonishing when it comes to the fact that the sun and the moon reunite or intersect symbolically every 19 years:

(75:9) When the sun and the moon come together.

It is also striking that the 19th intersection (75:9) occurs in sura 75, right after sura 74 which announces the sign of number 19.

 The word sun occurs 33 times in the Quran, because it symbolizes the 33 solar years that it takes for the solar and lunar calendar to come back together at the same time of the year. For instance, the fast of Ramadan comes back to the same period of the year every 33 years. It means that regardless of where people live on earth, people fast the same length of time over a period of 33 years. 

- During those 33 years, the sun rotates around itself 475 times (using the concept of a Carrington rotation), or 19 x 25. In other words, the sun experiences 475 “days” (or rotations) over 33 years (!), which is hidden the reason why there are 475 forms of the word day in the Quran.

Remark: Richard Christopher Carrington determined the rotation of the sun (Carrington rotation) from low latitude sunspots in the 1850s and calculated it as being 25.38 days for a sidereal rotation period (complete 360º rotation of the sun around its axis).

33 years is 365.2425 x 33 = 12053.0025 days.

475 sidereal rotations of the sun = 475 x 25.38 days = 12055.5 days (= 33 years). 

There is thus only a difference of about 2.5 days between the two figures! 

 

We can therefore not only say that the solar and lunar calendars reunite after 33 years, but also that in the same time, the sun completes 475 sidereal rotations (= 19 x 25)!

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Ok Russell and Donald , here's another one . Have fun boys .

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Ring Structure Miracle in Surah Qalam: (Please visit our website for reminders every Friday: http://aljumaareminder.com/)

 

1. Nun.
[These letters (Nun, etc.) are one of the miracles of the Qur'an, and none
but Allah (Alone) knows their meanings]. By the pen and what the (angels)
write (in the Records of men).
47. Or that the Ghaib (unseen
here in this Verse it means Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz) is in their hands, so that
they can write it down?
2. You
(O Muhammad ) are not, by the Grace of your Lord, a madman.
48. So wait with patience for
the Decision of your Lord, and be not like the Companion of the Fish, when he
cried out (to Us) while he was in deep sorrow. (See the Qur'an, Verse 21:87).
3. And
verily, for you (O Muhammad ) will be an endless reward.
49. Had not a Grace from his
Lord reached him, he would indeed have been (left in the stomach of the fish,
but We forgave him), so he was cast off on the naked shore, while he was to
be blamed.
4. And
verily, you (O Muhammad ) are on an exalted standard of character.
50. But his Lord chose him and
made him of the righteous.
5. You
will see, and they will see,
51. And verily, those who
disbelieve would almost make you slip with their eyes through hatredness when
they hear the Reminder (the Qur'an), and they say: "Verily, he (Muhammad
) is a madman!"
6. Which
of you is afflicted with madness.
52. But it is nothing else than
a Reminder to all the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists). 
7.
Verily, your Lord knows better, who (among men) has gone astray from His
Path, and He knows better those who are guided.
      8. So (O
Muhammad ) obey not the deniers [(of Islamic Monotheism those who belie the
Verses of Allah), the Oneness of Allah, and the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad
), etc.]
44. Then leave Me Alone with
such as belie this Qur'an. We shall punish them gradually from directions
they perceive not.
9. They
wish that you should compromise (in religion out of courtesy) with them, so
they (too) would compromise with you.
45. And I will grant them a
respite. Verily, My Plan is strong.
  46. Or is it that you (O
Muhammad ) ask them a wage, so that they are heavily burdened with debt?
        10. And
obey not everyone who swears much, and is considered worthless,
35. Shall We then treat the
(submitting) Muslims like the Mujrimun (criminals, polytheists and
disbelievers, etc.)?
11. A
slanderer, going about with calumnies,
36. What is the matter with you?
How judge you?
12.
Hinderer of the good, transgressor, sinful,
37. Or have you a Book through
which you learn.
13.
Cruel, after all that base-born (of illegitimate birth),
38. That you shall have all that
you choose?
14. (He
was so) because he had wealth and children.
39. Or you have oaths from Us,
reaching to the Day of Resurrection that yours will be what you judge.
15. When
Our Verses (of the Qur'an) are recited to him, he says: "Tales of the
men of old!"
40. Ask them, which of them will
stand surety for that!
16. We
shall brand him over the nose!
41. Or have they
"partners"? Then let them bring their "partners" if they
are truthful!
  42. (Remember) the Day when the
Shin shall be laid bare (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) and they shall be
called to prostrate (to Allah), but they (hypocrites) shall not be able to do
so,
  43. Their eyes will be cast
down, ignominy will cover them; they used to be called to prostrate (offer
prayers), while they were healthy and good (in the life of the world, but
they did not).
    17.
Verily, We have tried them as We tried the people of the garden, when they
swore to pluck the fruits of the (garden) in the morning,
34. Verily, for the Muttaqun
(pious and righteous persons - see V.2:2) are Gardens of delight (Paradise)
with their Lord.
18.
Without saying: Insha' Allah (If Allah will).
  19. Then
there passed by on the (garden) something (fire) from your Lord at night and
burnt it while they were asleep.
  20. So
the (garden) became black by the morning, like a pitch dark night (in
complete ruins).
  21. Then
they called out one to another as soon as the morning broke,
  22.
Saying: "Go to your tilth in the morning, if you would pluck the
fruits."
  23. So
they departed, conversing in secret low tones (saying),
  24. No
Miskin (poor man) shall enter upon you into it today.
  25. And
they went in the morning with strong intention, thinking that they have power
(to prevent the poor taking anything of the fruits therefrom).
  26. But
when they saw the (garden), they said: "Verily, we have gone
astray,"
  27.
(Then they said): "Nay! Indeed we are deprived of (the fruits)!"
  28. The
best among them said: "Did I not tell you: why do you not say: Insha'
Allah (If Allah will)."
  29. They
said: "Glory to Our Lord! Verily, we have been Zalimun (wrong-doers,
etc.)."
  30. Then
they turned, one against another, in blaming.
  31. They
said: "Woe to us! Verily, we were Taghun (transgressors and disobedient,
etc.)
  32. We
hope that our Lord will give us in exchange a better (garden) than this.
Truly, we turn to our Lord (wishing for good that He may forgive our sins,
and reward us in the Hereafter)."
      33. Such
is the punishment (in this life), but truly, the punishment of the Hereafter
is greater, if they but knew.
 
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Sorry i tried placing the above in a table but it is as follows:

 

Ring Structure in Surah Qalam: http://aljumaareminder.com/

 

(Ayah 1 - Ayah 7) with (Ayah 47 - Ayah 52) - Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is not a madman is assured in the beginning and end. Both Prophets had grace from Allah

 

(Ayah 8 - Ayah 9) with (Ayah 44 - Ayah 46) - The deniers are mentioned and want to compromise while Islam is a free religion, no wage was asked of them

 

(Ayah 10 - Ayah 16) with (Ayah 35 - Ayah 43) - The Arrogant are explained and Allah addresses them

 

(Ayah 17 - Ayah 32) with (Ayah 34) - The people of the garden made taubah and Allah in Ayah 34 ensures there is a Garden in Paradise for the righteous

 

(Ayah 33) - The middle Ayah and main message

 

Please read these three miracles from the Quran about 'Iesa, the last one is new to most at this time: http://aljumaareminder.com/reminder/93-iarlg-iesa-ibn-maryam-liguistic-miracle-of-iesa-and-miracle-of-19-concerning-iesa-and-yahya-date-4th-december-2015-21th-or-22nd-safar-1437/

 

 

(Ayah 10 - Ayah 16) with (Ayah 35 - Ayah 43)

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We (IARLG) got the inspiration to look for more Surahs with this nature from Nouman Ali Khan and Allah helped us find two surahs which are Surah Saff and Surah Qalam.


 

 

In Surah Saff take the following order:

-         [Ayat 1 to 4] and compare with [Ayat 10 to 14] ==> Allah in the beginning lets us know everything glorifies Him and is asking us believers why we don’t do what we say and how that is hateful to Him. He also tells us what He (Allah) loves us believers to do. In the end of the Surah, Allah addresses us believers again and lets us know how to please Him and gives us an example of people who did well.

 

-         [Ayat 5 to 6] and compare with [Ayat 9] ==> The Ayat 5-6 shows how the children of israel didn’t take advantage of their Prophets and did what angered Allah as shown in Ayat 1-4. In Ayat 9 we are shown that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was sent to make Islam victorious over all religions.

 

-         [Ayat 7] and compare with [Ayat 8] ==> These two Ayats presents the central message about this Surah. In Ayat 7 the disbelievers are exposed to invent lies against Allah. In Ayat 8, Allah says that these lies aim to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths but Allah will put out their Light even if they hate it. It is as if
Allah has encircled the disbelievers because Ayat 1 declares that Allah is the All-Mighty and All-Wise and in Ayat 8, he has sandwiched those liars.

 

 

In Surah Qalam take the following order:

 

-         [Ayat 1 to 7] and compare with [Ayat 47 to 52] ==> Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is assured that he is not a madman in Ayat 2-7 since the disbelievers call him a madman in Ayat 51. It is through the Grace of Allah that he is not a madman as it was also the Grace of Allah that saved Yunus. Allah in Ayat 7 informs the Prophet (SAW) to continue giving Dawah because only He knows who is best guided and who is not. The Ayats 47 to 52 informs him not to be like the companion of the fish even if they deny him. Now that the Prophet (SAW) has been ordered not to abandon his task of conveying.

 

-         [Ayat 8 to 9] and compare with [Ayat 44 to 46] ==> He is further told not to obey the deniers in Ayat 8 and Ayat 44 tells him to leave the deniers of the Quran to Allah Alone since he will punish them from directions they perceive not. Ayat 9 tells us they want to compromise even though the religion has no price and is free to enter that even Allah says in Ayat 46, “Or is it that you ask them a wage, so that they are heavily burdened with debt?

 

-         [Ayat 10 to 15] and compare with [Ayat 35 to 43] ==> Ayat 10-15 is where the characteristics of these deniers is mention and ends in Ayat 15 where Allah says that He will brand him over the nose. They have been warned. In Ayat 35-39, Allah is addressing the disbelievers before turning to Muhammad (SAW) in Ayat 40-41. In Ayat 42-43, the disbelievers and hypocrites will not be able prostrate and hence this is probably where the threat of Ayat 16 will take place.

 

-         [Ayat 17 to 32] and compare with [Ayat 34] ==> Here we are told about the owners of the garden from Ayat 17-32 and how they wronged themselves and sought repentance from Allah in this world. Ayat 34 indicates that they were forgiven since it says the pious will have Gardens of delight with their Lord. Since they repented, they are most likely the pious now. And Allah knows best.

 

-         [Ayat 33] ==> This is the central message which informs us on what is going to happen in the Hereafter from Ayat 34-52. In Ayat 34-52 is also Allah addressing what was stated in Ayat 1-32. Ayat 1-32 were all taking place in this world.


 

There are many other Surahs to explore; we just heard from Nouman Ali Khan that Surah Qasass also has this ring structure from comparing Musa’s story in the beginning who was wealthy but not showing off and Qarun at the end who was not that wealthy but was not showing off to many others such as comparing the Quraish who wanted Prophet Muhammad (SAW) to perform the miracles of Musa and the Children of israel who believed in the Quran.

 

GET TO KNOW: Ep. 6 - Surah Al-Qasas - Nouman Ali Khan - Quran Weekly

 


 

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