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First, a little disclaimer. I am in fact a homosexual, and I am in fact a Muslim (a very un-orthodox Muslim, but a Muslim none the less).

 

There are two major arguments that have been put forth against homosexuality that not only are incredibly silly, but factually incorrect. Let's start with the first one.

 

1: "Homosexuality is unnatural"

 

If this is the case, why is it practiced not only by humans but by many other animals in the animal kingdom, most notably Zebras? Moral/Religious opponents of Homosexuality seem to have it in their heads that humans are the only species on the planet that practices it, when this is not true. So if it is not only practiced by humans but by many animals in the animal kingdom, how can you possibly make the case that Homosexuality is unnatural?

 

2. "No one is born a homosexual"

 

This is factually incorrect. I don't personally believe that science has all of the answers, but if science hasn't proven anything else, it has proven conclusively that homosexuality is the result of hormones that the mother's body pumps into the child during pregnancy. I would post the links explaining all of this, but I'm a new member and as such I'm not allowed to post links. So the entire notion of homosexuality being a personal choice has been proven to be factually incorrect.

 

I recommend everyone watch the documentary, "For the Bible Tells Me So." You can find it on Netflix.

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WELCOME! I believe that any Forum is better and stronger with more diversity I have brought the perspective of an unbeliever here. I haven't converted anybody (or tried to) but I have, at least, established that good Muslims can talk to an atheist. I now count several as friends. By the way I went to school in Tennessee, and have a lovely and wonderful lesbian daughter!

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I believe that all sexual activity outside of reproduction in the context of a marriage is sinful, but have failed to live up to these beliefs, so I am in no position to judge homosexuals. However I understand that male homosexuals especially enjoy friendship with the opposite sex but are sometimes repulsed by female sex organs so my guess is that in the past, people with these proclivites would have married women and had very limited sex back in purer ages when sex was more firmly associated with reproduction in the public mind and there was no libertine talk of people having "sex lives", etc.

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We had a wonderful Orange Maine Coon Cat named Max, but he ran away. :mellow:

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First, a little disclaimer. I am in fact a homosexual, and I am in fact a Muslim (a very un-orthodox Muslim, but a Muslim none the less).

 

If you say that you are a Muslim then surely you believe in the Quran right? Well, the Quran has told us the story of Prophet Lut(as). Listen to it:

 

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUXS3UJJJ8k

 

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2rRkQ64yeE

 

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5295ZxsOhs

 

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlRZ3vqKM_E

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Some things you just don't chose, and homosexuality is one of those things.

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Some things you just don't chose, and homosexuality is one of those things.

 

Everybody is tested by desires - however if you really believe in Allah then you don't choose your desires over Him. I really suggest you read the story of Prophet Lot as Brother Saracen Soldier advised. If you really believe in Allah then you wouldn't have a illegal relations with a man. You need to get your priorities straight - do you want to satisfy your desires in this short life knowing that you are giving up the next life? It is a serious thing to think about if you really believe in Allah.

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KenPruitt, I am sorry but science can try and explain away all it wants with the hormone stuff. I must agree with ParadiseLost on this one. You will be tempted and tested. One must decide if they will serve God or the world. In Christianity homosexuality is condemned. The following is from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

 

 

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

<a name="2359" style="color: rgb(148, 128, 92); ">2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

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"Everybody is tested by desires - however if you really believe in Allah then you don't choose your desires over Him."

 

But this assumes that homosexuality is actually a choice, i.e., that you're choosing to have desires for the same sex instead of the opposite sex, when this is not the case. I can't choose to have desires for the opposite sex anymore than a heterosexual male could choose to have desires for another man. Suppose a homosexual male tried to seduce a heterosexual male. What do you think would happen? The heterosexual male would be disgusted and decline the seduction, even if it means making his decline forcefully known, i.e., striking the other man who attempted to seduce him. The same would stand true if a heterosexual male tried to seduce a lesbian. Even IF the lesbian wanted to have desires for the opposite sex, she can't. That's the whole point. The biology isn't there.

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The last report to come out of anyone even attempting the gay gene theory was in 2010. I suspect that you are misinformed or deliberately making false claims. If there is irrefutable evidence of a so called homosexual gene or proof of it being something tied to birth that is not still in testing mode then I will gladly evaluate that as facts are facts but I will need to see evidence. See I have had this debate before on another forum, when I was Christian. So, I know where this will lead.

 

As for the being Muslim part I strongly doubt it but that is between you and Allah (swt) and I am trying to refrain from negativity as this is Ramadan.

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"Everybody is tested by desires - however if you really believe in Allah then you don't choose your desires over Him."

 

But this assumes that homosexuality is actually a choice, i.e., that you're choosing to have desires for the same sex instead of the opposite sex, when this is not the case. I can't choose to have desires for the opposite sex anymore than a heterosexual male could choose to have desires for another man.

You do have a choice in how you react to your desires. You have the ability to control your desires but if you are going to act like you are special and that you are unable to keep control of these desires then you are making it more difficult for yourself. Nobody can force you to have relations with a man - you are the one who makes that choice. You cannot blame God or anyone else when you take that choice to act on your desires. You completely have the choice to also refuse to have relations with a man. I am sure there are men and women in the world who feel more attracted to the same sex but because for their love of God they never acted on these desires. These people will be rewarded because they struggled against their desires for the sake of Allah. If you do not struggle against your desires for the sake of Allah then the end result won't be good. The quran is clear on the stance of same sex relations - they are forbidden.

 

Allah orders us to take the whole quran as a whole. Yes there may be parts that are difficult for us but we can't just pick and choose the verses we like. If you believe in the word of Allah then surely you believe in the fact that He knows what is best for us. He is the One who created you and yet you question what He is telling you is forbidden? It is a sign of arrogance when humans think that they know themselves better than their Creator knows them.

 

May Allah guide you to the truth.

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It is like sister lost said, If you have these desires as you have said you do then you need to find a way to repress or a change in your lifestyle where by you stop acting on them. In Islam the sin is on the person once the action has been committed. So protect yourself from a grave sin and seek the pleasure of your Lord. Remember also that this world is finite made of day which are made of hours and only Allah knows when your last hour will be, so worship him as he should be worshiped, obey him as he should be obeyed and return not to Allah in state fresh from sin, escpecially not one as grave as this.

 

I pray that Allah azawajal guides you and puts the conviction in your heart that you are capable to supress these ill actions

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"You have the ability to control your desires but if you are going to act like you are special and that you are unable to keep control of these desires then you are making it more difficult for yourself. Nobody can force you to have relations with a man - you are the one who makes that choice. You cannot blame God or anyone else when you take that choice to act on your desires."

 

I really hate not being able to post links, so I'll just have to settle with saying that this notion that homosexuality is a choice has been thoroughly, demonstrably, discredited. The only people who believe in this nonsense are the people who reject science as an innovation against God (Allah, depending on your faith) and this is one of the dumbest positions out there. It has been scientifically proven, beyond all doubts, that a homosexual CAN NOT feel sexual desire for the opposite sex. Of this there is no scientific dispute. The faith-based movements (Pray Away The Gay, etc) that supposedly "cure" gays have been shown to be nothing but a scam which takes advantage of people's self-hate/insecurities. But let's say for argument's sake that I'm wrong and homosexuality is completely a choice. How does that explain the multitude of animals that practice homosexuality? Zebras come to mind instantly on this front. If Homosexuality is a human choice, and thus an unnatural act, then how can animals deviate from the "natural" instinctive act of reproducing with the opposite sex? None of this makes any sense at all.

 

"The last report to come out of anyone even attempting the gay gene theory was in 2010. I suspect that you are misinformed or deliberately making false claims. If there is irrefutable evidence of a so called homosexual gene or proof of it being something tied to birth that is not still in testing mode then I will gladly evaluate that as facts are facts but I will need to see evidence."

 

No one said anything about a Gay Gene (that doesn't make any sense either, at least not to me). Homosexuality is the result of a hormonal imbalance. A good documentary to watch on this is called, "For the Bible Tells me So." You can find it on Netflix. They get into the science a lot better than I can.

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Firstly

 

"It has been scientifically proven, beyond all doubts, that a homosexual CAN NOT feel sexual desire for the opposite sex. Of this there is no scientific dispute."

 

There is no way that your statement above can be proven to be true, no true scientist will ever make a statment like that they would be ridiculed because there is no way to substantiate that.

 

Secondly, Just because some animals practice does not make it right or "natural" in the same way that there are some animals that kill their own babies... I am sure you will agree that is not natural for a human to do such a thing. We are not following animals we were created differently with a different purpose, to Worship Allah alone and adhere to the laws that he has set upon us.

 

Even if you are correct and it has come about through a hormonal imbalance, that is your test! You are prohibited from acting upon this desire, there are no two ways about it. Allah swt has said in the Quran he does not burden a sould more then it can withstand, so you have the ability within yourself to repress it, its up to you to step up and stay away from anything that increases that desire in you and refrain in any matter from practising it.

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For the second time I said you have the choice to act on you desires. No one forces you to get into a relation with a man. It is your decision.

 

Also comparing humans to animals?? Really? The quran is a book for humans not for animals so I think you might want to rethink what you are saying. As brother ala'adin said we have a completely different purpose than animals do.

 

Homosexuality is transgressing the limits that Allah set upon us - thats quite clear from the quran - so you either believe in the word of God or you don't. You either believe God knows us better than we know ourselves or you don't.

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"Homosexuality is transgressing the limits that Allah set upon us - thats quite clear from the quran - so you either believe in the word of God or you don't. You either believe God knows us better than we know ourselves or you don't."

 

First of all, no one is trying to argue that Homosexuality isn't forbidden in Islam by Allah. Of course it is. You're preaching to the choir here. The point was to destroy two fallacious arguments against it. The first that homosexuality is a choice, the second that it's not natural.

 

"Also comparing humans to animals?? Really?"

 

I did this to show you that Homosexuality isn't "unnatural". It wasn't meant for anything else.

 

"No one forces you to get into a relation with a man."

 

Biology forces you. That's the whole point. It's either get into a relationship with the same sex, or don't get into a relationship at all. Considering humans are social animals (humans are an animal, I'm sorry to break to you), this clearly isn't a choice. Who can go their entire lives without having a single relationship? It's impossible, and anyone who said that they have is lying. This notion that homosexuality is a choice has been, I shall say for the hundredth time, utterly discredited. This cartoon sums it up nicely.

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It's either get into a relationship with the same sex, or don't get into a relationship at all.

And you know which one is better in the sight of Allah

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"Who can go their entire lives without having a single relationship? It's impossible, and anyone who said that they have is lying."

 

It is possible. There are people who don't get into a single relationship. Easy? No. Impossible? No.

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KinPruitt,

 

It is normal for any human to try to throw his mistakes upon anything else. We know and you know that this is not the way. It's hard, yes it's hard to sustain our desires I will not say natural desires but controlled desires because we are not species, we are not animals, we are Adam sons with mind.

 

The best way is to face our weakness whatever it seems big and horrible in oour eyes but yet we can defeat it if we only start trying to defeat it. Yes for people the desire to the opposite sex is strong but controllable it is not impossible, if you try to liken yours with this then it is controllable too and not impossible. I will tell you a way that will help you insha Allah but promise to do:

 

Forget your past and ask Allah's forgiveness.

Try to avoid dealing with men (as women asked to be by lowering your gaze, no checking hands,,,)

Marry an attractive good woman who seems to fill your time.

 

Always remember these Ayats:

 

قَالَ هَٰؤُلَاءِ بَنَاتِي إِن كُنتُمْ فَاعِلِينَ (71) (الحجر)

 

"He said: Here are my daughters, if ye must be doing. (71)"

So this is the cure which is to marry.

 

وَاللَّذَانِ يَأْتِيَانِهَا مِنْكُمْ فَآذُوهُمَا فَإِنْ تَابَا وَأَصْلَحَا فَأَعْرِضُوا عَنْهُمَا إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ تَوَّابًا رَحِيمًا (16) إِنَّمَا ٱلتَّوْبَةُ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ لِلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلسُّوۤءَ بِجَهَالَةٍ ثُمَّ يَتُوبُونَ مِن قَرِيبٍ فَأُوْلَـٰئِكَ يَتُوبُ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيْهِمْ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَلِيماً حَكِيماً

And those (two) who commit it among you, hurt them and if they repent and do righteous good deeds, leave them alone. Surely, Allâh is Ever All-Forgiving Most Merciful. (16) Verily repentance on Allah for those who do evil in ignorance and then repent soon it is they whom Allâh will forgive and Allâh is Ever All¬Knower, All¬Wise. (17

 

Do repent and be sure that Allah will support you.

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I am gay too. I though Allah is all loving? Am I going to be cast into the lake of fire like those Christian nuts?

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Neurological path is actually the key factor in homosexuals. It decides the reactions to the hormones released. I am a sexual sadist and I am not different then a homosexual honestly.

A homosexual male reacts tot he hormones released by other men during arousal instead of the opposite sex and a person like me reacts to the hormones released by people during stress or pain. Fundamentally we are no different because our actions are decided by our neurological make-up and hormones.

So yes there are a lot of homosexuals born gay but also there are a lot who have suffered abuse or were pressured into thinking they are gay by our current media.

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Neurological path is actually the key factor in homosexuals. It decides the reactions to the hormones released. I am a sexual sadist and I am not different then a homosexual honestly.

A homosexual male reacts tot he hormones released by other men during arousal instead of the opposite sex and a person like me reacts to the hormones released by people during stress or pain. Fundamentally we are no different because our actions are decided by our neurological make-up and hormones.

So yes there are a lot of homosexuals born gay but also there are a lot who have suffered abuse or were pressured into thinking they are gay by our current media.

 

Do you have any science to back this or are you just speculating?

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I am gay too. I though Allah is all loving? Am I going to be cast into the lake of fire like those Christian nuts?

 

Allah is indeed all loving, but that doesn't make Allah accept all sinned actions before repentance. If it isn't so, then why did Allah send prophet to mankind and give several rules? It proves that Allah loves people as long as they do good and lead a life based on His rules, in this case, Sharia law. If they keep do bad things even after warned (by prophet, but in this case, by Imam or the muslims), well, you can see how much people who have been destroyed by Allah's wrath, for example, the people of Prophet Lut who did homosexuality like you, then later, the city of Pompeii in Italy which also be destroyed because the people did homosexuality.

 

I think you can repent, but if you still do that, then you must be punish according Sharia law.

 

I will give you some informations regarding Islam and gay. Please read these verses:

 

 

"For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: Ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds. (The Noble Quran, 7:81)"

 

"(We also sent) Lut (as an apostle): behold, He said to his people, "Do ye do what is shameful though ye see (its iniquity)? (The Noble Quran, 27:54)"

 

"Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant! (The Noble Quran, 27:55)"

 

 

Also these hadiths:

 

 

Rasulullah (pbuh) said, “Indeed, I feared the most action will befall my people are acts committed by the people of Lut. "(Narrated by Ibn Majah no. 2563)

 

Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam also said: "Whoever witness someone committing the people of Lut (homosexuality), then kill the perpetrators." (Reported by Ahmad and Sunan Ashabus)

 

He (pbuh) also said in another hadith:

 

'Abd al-Rahman, the son of Abu Sa'id al-Khudri, reported from his father: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: "A man should not see the private parts of another man, and a woman should not see the private parts of another woman, and a man should not lie with another man under one covering, and a woman should not lie with another woman under one covering. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Menstruation (Kitab Al-Haid), Book 003, Number 0667)"

 

"Allah will not look at a man who makes love to another men or women from their anus.” (from at-Tirmidzi, an-Nasai, and Ibnu Hibban)

 

 

So, it is clear that Islam really can't compromise with homosexuality.

 

Brother, men are created equal, from the clay. Humans are also born with all the advantages and weakness. Like a metal, such as gold, silver and others.

 

"Man is like a precious metal. The best in the jahiliyyah, will be the best in the Islamic.” (from al-Bukhari 1238).

 

With the advantages of each, man was given the ability to do good, and with each of its shortcomings, the people will have to fight the temptation of lust and bad tendencies.

 

Yes, each of us has flaws, and in order to survive in the truth, we must force ourselves.

 

People are born with different sexual tendencies, also including any disabilities. That man was born in a state of sickness.

 

But of course it takes hard work to overcome the disease. So, before we have to reassure ourselves up as the Lord by the Prophet sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam,

 

"Whenever Allah revealed the disease, surely Allah sent down the remedy. " (from al-Bukhari (6578))

 

Then, the actual co-operation is needed in order to overcome them. First, from yourself, and of course, parents, neighborhood, and education/work environtment. That is, if the tendency is visible in everyday life.

 

For example, the tendency of like to play with the opposite sex alone, insecure attitude when dealing with the same species, especially the tendency to wear feminine dress, it should be anticipated early.

 

Parents are the most mandatory anticipating it. Many parents are just proud to see her daughter looks tomboy, or a son look feminine. They even support by providing clothing, toys, and friends hang out in accordance with the trend of these children. This is very dangerous!

 

Teachers, friends and the environtment can also be a cause of whether the tendency will decrease, or even increase.

 

However, the most important is yourself. When one realizes the tendency is not normal, moreover if it had known the laws of Sharia, immediately declare"war" against these unlawful tendencies.

 

Remember on the Quran and hadiths which forbid homosexuality will make a strong motivation, to fight one's limitations, so as not to get caught up in sin and sinners.

 

Then the second, say to ourselves, just how evil is the deeds. So we are getting motivated to fight it.

 

Third, don’t keep your relationships with men who interest you. It is considered dangerous, try to avoid a lot of meetings with them.

 

Fourth, cultivate self-motivation, "I was a real man". Be strong in determination, "I will get married, and 'Insha Allah' will have children.", And similar determinations, wrapped in a good motivation as recommended by the Shari'a.

 

Fifth, pray and dhikr. Also do a special prayer, asking God to give relief from the disease.

 

Sixth, try asking for prayers for special people, parents, close friends, and people who are considered righteous, or small children. "I have a disease. Pray, for my illness recover quickly. "

 

Seventh, do not forget to do the effort to cure the disease medically. I suggest to perform a variety of alternative treatments, such as acupuncture, reflexology, avasinologi,hypnotism, and the like to be the perfect man. That stimulates the production of the male hormones, and suppress the growth of female hormones. I highly recommend taking herbs. But note, which is needed is not strong medicine, but herbs, which help produce male hormones.

 

I also recommend doing a lot of typical male sports, especially bodybuilding and martial arts. Perhaps, martial "thifan po khan", I suggest. Because I heard that this martial, distinguished between movements and exercises for men and women. Any matters relating to the activities of man, tends to force the growth hormone manliness. And vice versa.

 

In the future, do not be swayed by Western propaganda that tries to legalize the presence of gay along their immoral actions and deeds. Yes, that they are lovable and loved, but by no means allowed to grow up with a disease that they have. But it should be approached and treated properly, so back to being a normal man.

 

There was a young man asked Shaykh Salih al-Munajjid, may Allah forgive him and have mercy on him-about tendency of some people’s thoughts that trying to justify homosexual under the pretext that it is a natural tendency, not a crime.

 

He asserted,

 

“We do not agree with their statement that sexual preference is natural. Rather it is a distortion of nature. God have regarded it as an act of contemptible and beyond. God has given the people of Lut a punishment was never given to any people. God has told us that the torment like that will be very close to come to those who do wrong. Their statement that the tendenccy is natural, is an effort to propagate the damage and looking for reasons to justify it.”

 

Many of those who intentionally alter their body shapes that seem to have the disorder, how can it be said as their human nature? God never intended for man to be tortured. But God's create them to worship Him. God sometimes test His servants with various disaster to forge their faith and to merge their sins and raise their status. Allah never forced his servant to be a sinner, and then tortured them. Instead of a creature that acts on its own, as well as people who have a sexual disorder. With that act, they deserve punishment. Allah says, "And God did not do tyranny to anyone."

 

God will not command contemptible deeds, will you tell God anything that you do not know. Allah knows best.

 

Furthermore, it is not true that the disease can not be cured at all, because we are more confident with the words of the Prophet sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam, "Whenever Allah revealed the disease, surely Allah sent down a cure."

 

Besides it is very risky to lead a life of a homosexual. Read this:

 

The Vulnerable Risks Faced By Homosexual

Clinical Category

By: Veronica Adesla, S.Psi

Jakarta, March 13, 2009

 

Each identity status attached to a person, every decision made, every action taken must contain risk. Even life itself is a risk that must be lived and dealt with. Likewise, sexual identity, be it heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, everything has risks that must be lived and dealt with.

Talking about homosexuality, the risks faced by vulnerable homosexual, can be viewed from two perspectives, namely by: sources of risk and risk types.

 

1. Sources of Risk

Based on the sources of risk can be the source / origin where the risk comes. The risk faced by the homosexual vulnerable can be divided into two:

 

a. Risks that must be faced from the external environment

The presence of homosexuals in society and in interacting / socializing with the environment constantly exposed to laws, norms, values, and the written and unwritten rules, and prevailing stereotypes in society. For example, state law does not allow the marriage between the same sex, religious norms that do not allow homosexual relationships, unwritten rule that applies in the community to avoid relationships with homosexuals, closing opportunities for homosexuals to work / work, school or any occasion to health care the same as another.

The above situation has the potential to produce a reaction and treatment from the surrounding environment. Some are being used, there is a look at one eye, others to the treatment is not as exciting as ostracized, excluded / shunned by family, friends, and work environment, and society.

This is a bit of an overview risks often faced by homosexuals when they are in the midst of society and establish interaction / socializing with their environment. Do not close the possibility of homosexuals who face different situations and responses from the public. This is because of legal and cultural differences prevailing between one society to another. Thus it is very possible some of homosexuals in a society with a culture and values ​​of a particular risk to the different treatment of homosexuals in society B to the culture and values ​​are not the same.

 

b. Risks stemming from his own behavior / lifestyle

This lifestyle includes ways, manners, and habits both in expressing a particular sexual orientation, socialization, and daily living.

Certain lifestyle risk homosexuals can adversely affect physical and mental health and emotional, such as multiple sexual partners in sexual intercourse, sexual intercoursewhich is not safe (not using condoms); doing anal sex; drink loud and drugs.

A study of homosexual men shows that more than 75% of homosexual men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: approximately 15% claimed to have had 100-249 sex partners, 17% claimed 250-499, 15% claimed 500-999 and 28% claimed more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners. (Bell AP, Weinberg MS. Homosexualities. New York 19781).

Promiscuity among lesbian women is less extreme, but is still higher than among heterosexual women. Many 'lesbian' women also have sex with men. Lesbian women were more than 4 times as likely to have had more than 50 lifetime male partners than heterosexual women. (Fethers K et al. Sexually transmitted infections and risk behaviours in women who have sex with women. Sexually Transmitted Infections 2000; 76: 345-9.1)

Lifestyle as risk to the disruption of physical health, such as STI's (Sexual Transmitted Infections) / STD's (Sexual Transmitted Diseases), including HIV-AIDS, and impaired mental health and emotional, such as excessive anxiety, depression, destructive / self-harm, etc. .

 

2. Type of Risk

Based on the type of risk, the risk faced by the vulnerable homosexual can be divided into three:

 

a. Risks associated with mental health and emotional

London, 17 September 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A new study in the UK found that 50% of homosexuals are more prone to depression and drug use when compared to a normal population, the report Health24.com.

A 2004 issue of the The British Journal of Psychiatry, published a study of the high rates of mental illness in gay males, lesbians, and bisexual men and women. The study surveyed mental health problems faced by gays and bisexuals in England and Wales between September, 2000 and July, 2002. The survey was of 2,430 gays and bisexuals over the age of 16 years. It found high rates of planned or actual deliberate self-harm among these groups: 42% of gay males; 43% of lesbians; 49% of bisexual men and women. A similar study published by the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology (Vo. 71, No. 1, 53-61, 2003) found the following: Gay men and bisexual men were more likely than heterosexual males to be diagnosed with at lest one of five mental health disorders. Lesbian-bisexual women were more likely than heterosexual women to report mental health-related problems in the year prior to being interviewed. 24% of lesbian, bisexual women were co-morbid for two or more mental disorders in the previous year.

After analyzing 25 earlier studies on sexual orientation and mental health, researchers, in a study published in the medical journal BMC Psychiatry, also found that the risk of suicide jumped over 200% if an individual had engaged in a homosexual lifestyle.

Two extensive studies published in the October 1999 issue of American Medical Association Archives of General Psychiatry confirmed the existence of a strong link between homosexuality and suicide, as well as other mental and emotional problems.

Youth who identify themselves as homosexual, lesbian and bisexual are four times more likely than their peers to suffer from major depression; three times more likely to suffer anxiety disorders, four times more likely to suffer conduct disorders, six times more likely to suffer from multiple disorders and more than six times more likely to have attempted suicide.

The data on research conducted by various sources on to justify the risk of mental health disorders and emotional on homosexuality, such as: depression, mental disorders, anxiety disorders, behavioral disorders (conduct-sexual molestation or physical / sexual or physical abuse), hurt / hurt themselves, to suicidal behavior.

 

The dynamics of the causes of mental disorders and emotional

What caused mental and emotional health disorders as such in homosexual? There are several explanations on this subject:

* Psychological distress of suffering / unpleasant conditions, such as homophobia; HIV-AIDS; non-HIV STD's such as syphilis, Anal Cancer, gonorrhea, Chlamydia, Herpes, Genital Warts; body image issues. Psychological stress can make a homosexual become stressed and when he is not able to deal with this stress (distress), he gets out of control and unable to control himself. In such a situation this person is controlled entirely by the negative emotions in him such as: depression, anxiety / fear of excessive, self-pity, anger, jealousy, etc..

 

* Negative self image

Negative self-image occurs when one views and believes himself unworthy, inferior (not humble), And helplessness (internalized homophobia).

 

"Negative self image is views self as socially inept, unappealing, or inferior to others" (www.medical-dictionary.com)

 

The concept of internal homophobia look at an idea where we are building a negative self image of ourselves result of the treatment of others towards us during our sexuality.

Negative self-image formed in a homosexual when he was faced with: a painful past experiences (rejected and mistreated / abused physically and emotionally by family, friends in childhood, or at school); unpleasant treatment from society ( homophobia) as to: impose certain stereotypes about homosexuals, download cap or certain negative labeling, pressure / force values, attitudes, or certain actions, as well as discriminatory factor in such things as laws, norms, values, and certain rules

A homosexual said: "Homophobia can cause stress, worry and derpression. It harms our physical and mental health. It can affect how some of us value ourselves and our future. We might try to cope with the pressure through drink, drugs, smoking or sex "

 

* Engaging in homosexual intercourse

In an interview with Zenit News, Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons, a child and adult psychiatrist in practice for more than 27 years, said, "Compared to controls who had no homosexual experience in the 12 months prior to the interviews, males who had any homosexual contact within that time period were much more likely to experience major depression, bipolar disorder, panic disorder, agoraphobia and obsessive compulsive disorder. Females with any homosexual contact within the previous 12 months were more often diagnosed with major depression, social phobia or alcohol dependence

He concluded by saying, "Men and women with a history of homosexual contact had a higher prevalence of nearly all psychiatric disorders measured in the study. These findings are the result of a lifestyle marked by rampant promiscuity and an inability to make commitments, combined with unresolved sadness, profound insecurity, anger and mistrust from childhood and adolescence."

Perceptions and attitudes toward homosexual sexual relationships have consequences for mental and emotional health. When he put the negative perceptions and attitudes towards sexual relationships,the unpleasant feelings will come in and disturb him.

Perceptions and negative attitudes can manifest guilt, fear, shame, the belief that sexual intercourse is not doing well, the belief that sexual intercourse does not on his own free will, the belief that sexual intercourse he did not bring in anything, do not give anything meaningful, or there will be no end, making sexual intercourse as an escape or outlet for negative emotions they feel, etc.. Consequently, after each tasting pleasure moment, he actually injured by his useless, in the sense of loneliness, emptiness, guilt, sin, etc..

Eventually the chain formed pathological (unhealthy), having sex then feel hurt, end up hurting yourself and then seek pleasure / things to please him (treat the pain) to have sexual intercourse again and then repeated again and thus so on.

According to Sanderson (www.lesbianinformationservice.org 1995), the effects of staying in the closet / coming out for lesbian women in particular homosexuality, is:

a. Avoidance of intimacy especially from people nearby, as well as putting strain in conjunction with a partner.

b. Lead to depression, alcohol dependence, drug abuse, suicide and other behaviors that hurt themselves.

Coming out is a process of self-discovery or receipt of notification of orientation and lesbian or gay (homosexual) an individual to someone

 

b. Risks associated with physical / biological

Risky sexual behavior can interfere with physical / biological of homosexuals. Such as: sexual intercourse freely / multiple partners even with strangers; perform unsafe sex such as: do not use condoms and do not know the diagnosis / sexual health status (HIV-AIDS, venereal disease) of the couple, and perform anal sex is great risk of physical / biological of homosexuals.

Dr. Xiridou was studying the spread of HIV among homosexuals in The Netherlands and found that HIV was spread more rapidly among homosexual couples who considered themselves to be in "steady" relationships. These couples failed to engage in "safe sex" and were involved in 6-10 additional sexual encounters outside of the primary relationship each year. Those who considered their sexual relationships "casual" engaged in 16-28 sexual encounters outside of the primary relationship each year. (AIDS,17:1029-1038, 2003)

British health officials in 2004 also expressed concern about homosexuals who use the internet to locate sex orgies, where HIV-infected and non-infected homosexuals engage in unprotected sex

"An epidemiological study" from Vancouver, Canada of data tabulated between 1987 and 1992 for AIDS-related deaths reveals that male homosexual or bisexual practitioners lost up to 20 years of life expectancy. The study concluded that if 3 percent of the population studied were gay or bisexual, the probability of a 20-year-old gay or bisexual man living to 65 years was only 32 percent, compared to 78 percent for men in general. The damaging effects of cigarette smoking pale in comparison-cigarette smokers lose on average about 13.5 years of life expectancy

 

Risks of health problems that can be experienced from unhealthy sexual behavior are as follows:

 

* HIV-AIDS

A 1997 New York Times article reported that a young male homosexual has about a 50 percent chance of getting HIV by middle age. (Sheryl Gay Stolberg, "Gay Culture Weighs Sense and Sexuality," New York Times (Late edition, east coast), November 23, 1997, section 4, p.1)

As of 1998, 54 percent of all AIDS cases in America were homosexual men and according to the Center for Disease Control (CDC) nearly 90 percent of these men acquired HIV through sexual activity with other men. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1998, June, HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report 10 (1)).

Even more alarming, the Center for Disease Control & Prevention reported in 1998 that an estimated half of all new HIV infections in the United States are among people under 25. Among 13-to 24-year-olds, 52 percent of all AIDS cases reported among males in 1997 were among young men who have sex with men. (CDC Fact Sheet: "Young People at Risk," Center for Disease Control & Prevention, National Center for HIV, STD and TB Prevention Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention, July 24, 19984)

In November, 2003, the CDC stated that HIV infection rates had risen in 29 states. There are an estimated 40,000 new HIV infections yearly with 70% of these being among men. Of those men who are infected, 60% are infected through homosexual sex; 25% through IV drug abuse; and 15% through heterosexual sex.

In April, 2005, the CDC released results of a study of 5,600 gay and bisexual men on their sex habits and attitudes about being tested for HIV. Ten percent of those surveyed were HIV positive. The CDC discovered that among those who were HIV positive, 77% were unaware that they were infected and 50% had engaged in unprotected sex during the previous six months.

 

Meanwhile, according to WHO data, the number of people living with HIV in Asia increased by more than 150%. Indonesia is the country with the fastest growing HIV epidemic. According to data of NAC (National AIDS Commission), in Indonesia until 30 September 2007 the cumulative number of AIDS cases were reported to be: 10 384 cases. This achievement is obtained based on reports from 32 provinces or 186 districts / cities. Mode of transmission of cumulative AIDS cases reported through: IDU (Injecting Drug Users) 49.5%, 42% Heterosexual, and Homosexual 4% .

When seen from this data, as the case of AIDS through homosexual relations is fairly minimal. However, subsequent data will mention the vulnerability of homosexuals to IDU (49%). Therefore homosexuals should remain sensitive and caring in dealing with the phenomenon of 4% (+ / - 415 people) of homosexuals living with HIV â € "AIDS. A description of the relationship between the susceptibility Homosexual IDU will be described hereinafter.

 

* Anal Cancer

According to J. R. Daling et.al, "Correlates of Homosexual Behavior and the Incidence of Anal Cancer," Journal of the American Medical Association 247, no.14, 9 April 1982, pp. 1988-90, the risk of anal cancer soars by 4000 percent among those who engage in anal intercourse.

In 2004, health officials in King County, Washington, reported a dramatic rise in cases of anal cancer as a result of homosexual sex.

* STI's / STD's lainnya, seperti: chlamydia trachomatis, cryptosporidium, giardia lamblia, herpes simplex virus, human papilloma virus (HPV) or genital warts, isospora belli, microsporidia, gonorrhea, viral hepatitis types B & C and syphilis.

 

While 'always' condom use reduces the risk of contracting HIV by about 85%, Condoms, even when used 100% of the time, fail to give adequate levels of protection against many non-HIV STDs such as Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Chlamydia, Herpes, Genital Warts and others. The only safe sex is, apart from abstinence, mutual monogamy with an uninfected partner. (Sex, Condoms, and STDs: What We Now Know. Medical Institute for Sexual Health. 2002).

 

c. Risks of both mental & emotional health and physical health / biological

The behaviour below regarding to the risk of the damage of physical condition, physical / biological and mental & emotional of a homosexual. These two factors are connected / correlated with one another.

 

* Domestic Violence / Sex - Physical - Emotional Abuse

Relationships among homosexuals are often marred by violence, whether it is sexual, physical, or emotional. The motive behind it is often due to problems / mental and emotional disorders in the person of the homosexuals.

In 2003, the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs issued a study on the high rate of domestic violence among homosexual couples. The group tracked violent incidents among gay couples from 2002 and found 5,000 cases, including four murders. The statistics gathered are thought to be only a fraction of the total number of violent incidents.

A study by Susan Turrell entitled "A descriptive analysis of Same-Sex Relationship Violence for a Diverse Sample," and published in the Journal of Family Violence (vol 13, pp 281-293), found that relationship violence was a significant problem for homosexuals. Forty-four percent of gay men reported having experienced violence in their relationship; 13 percent reported sexual violence and 83 percent reported emotional abuse. Levels of abuse ran even higher among lesbians with 55 percent reporting physical violence, 14 percent reporting sexual abuse and 84 percent reporting emotional abuse.

According to a summary of this study by Knight-Ridder, studies have estimated that domestic violence among gay males ranges from 12% to 36%, which is roughly the same as for heterosexual women. In the coalition study, 34% had experienced psychological/symbolic battering; 22% had experienced physical battering, and 5% sexual battering.

In a separate study published in The Journal of Men's Studies, (March 22, 2003), researchers noted that a survey of gay domestic violence in 2000 revealed that of 52 respondents, 79% had experienced pushing, shoving, or grabbing; 77% had experienced restraining or the blocking of an exit by a partner; 64% had experienced punching, hitting, or striking with hands or fists; 54% had been slapped3.

A 1998 study revealed that of those surveyed, 62% had been threatened with a weapon and 85% had experienced significant property or financial loss from an angry partner. In addition, 39% had been forced to have sex against their will by a homosexual partner.

 

* Substance Abuse / Drug Abuse (narcotics, psychotropic and addictive substances)

Mental and emotional problems, as well as lifestyle / homosexual lifestyle may predispose a person to use drugs and drink alcohol. Substance abuse additives include drugs (ectasy, putauw / heroin, marijuana, morphine, cocaine / crystal methamphetamine, cannabis), and liquor. Substance abuse can affect health such as (disorders of the brain, nerves, liver, etc..), Also can affect mental and emotional health (to be more emotional, more numb / no feeling, paranoia, delusions, hallucinations, etc..).

Drug abuse and drinking makes a person is in a state not fully aware of, and in such circumstances the person can not control / control himself. At such times, a lot of risk that must be ready to face.

Studies from around the world indicate that drug use is high among homosexual couples. A report published in The Atlanta Journal-Constitutuion (18 April, 2004), indicating an increasing trend among young homosexual men, which they use to maintain the ecstasy of sexual activity during an orgy in progress. Those who use ecstasy three times more likely to acquire HIV.

Studies from around the globe all point to continued high rates of substance abuse among homosexuals. A report published in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (April 18, 2004), indicated that there’s a growing trend among young homosexual males to use Crystal Meth to prolong sexual activities during sex orgies. Those using Crystal were three times as likely to be HIV infected.

Health officials in Seattle reported in 2001 that drug use among homosexuals was on the rise as a way of increasing sexual pleasure. Drug use is related to unprotected and anonymous sex among homosexual males. The Midwest AIDS Prevention Project published the following statistics on substance abuse among homosexuals in 2004:

Nearly 10% of gay and bisexual men responding to a Michigan Department of Community Health survey reported that they had engaged in unprotected sex when they were high or drunk. Among gay male teenagers, 68% reported alcohol use; 44% reported drug use; among lesbians: 83% had used alcohol; 56% had used drugs.

In a 1992 survey of San Francisco lesbian and bisexual women, 30% had used drugs other than alcohol; one in seven women had experienced violence when drunk or high; and 29% reported sexual abuse.

According to this article, "Data consistently show that drug use—particularly intravenous drug use—is associated with about a 40% increased risk of HIV infection." (Sharon Worcester, "Drug abuse in gay men linked to other issues: depression, partner abuse, and childhood sexual abuse are often intertwined with drug abuse," (Family Practice News, March 1, 2005.)

 

 

So, whether according to Islam or science, homosexuality is a bad way to live. I hope it helps you to clear your mind and back to the truth :)

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Verily, the Qur'an is a guidance only for those who have taqwa(fear of Allah),'' ..a guidance for those who fear Allah.''(Qur'an 2:2) So, a muslim homosexual no doubt has no fear of Allah, otherwise he wouldn't even engage in the act. The Qur'an reported Lot preaching to his homosexual people, '' Do you approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, but you are a people who behave SENSELESSLY.''(Q27:55)

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Further, are humans supposed to be copying animals(based on the zebra claim)? The Qur'an further sheds light on how Satan is the factor behind all forms of distortions of Allah's creation, '' (Satan said)Verily, I will mislead them(humans), and surely, I will arouse in them false desires;...and indeed I will order them to change the nature created by Allah..''(Q4:119) And, surely Allah's words are the truest.

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