Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

[Absolute truth 126]

That alone? No

But that verse alongside others make it a logical idea 

Do you think Prophet Jesus and his God are the same person ?

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[ECLIPSE 15]

For those who claim Jesus to be a prophet , and afford him the respect afforded a prophet , why then do they reject his teachings and contradict his words ??????

 

For those who claim Jesus was not crucified , died , buried and resurrected , because it was a deception , then those who say that are in effect denying what Jesus himself spoke - "that no man takes his life but he gives it up freely " .

 

Jesus said he forgave sins , only God can do that , so was Jesus a liar ?  When asked by his disciples " how many times must I forgive my brother " ? Jesus answered 77 times 7 . Was he joking ? He is referred to as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world - do those who call him prophet believe that ?  Jesus said no man come to the Father except through Me , do those who call him prophet believe that ?

 

Anything known or written about Jesus was compiled by  the  3rd Century , are all that is written and spoken of him to be rejected ?

 

So , if one is willing to call Jesus a prophet , then what he said must be valid . For all that has been said , recorded or written about Jesus , he was a prophet and much more . You either accept all that Jesus is , or you reject all .

[Noom3 0]

For those who claim Jesus to be a prophet , and afford him the respect afforded a prophet , why then do they reject his teachings and contradict his words ??????

 

For those who claim Jesus was not crucified , died , buried and resurrected , because it was a deception , then those who say that are in effect denying what Jesus himself spoke - "that no man takes his life but he gives it up freely " .

 

Jesus said he forgave sins , only God can do that , so was Jesus a liar ?  When asked by his disciples " how many times must I forgive my brother " ? Jesus answered 77 times 7 . Was he joking ? He is referred to as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world - do those who call him prophet believe that ?  Jesus said no man come to the Father except through Me , do those who call him prophet believe that ?

 

Anything known or written about Jesus was compiled by  the  3rd Century , are all that is written and spoken of him to be rejected ?

 

So , if one is willing to call Jesus a prophet , then what he said must be valid . For all that has been said , recorded or written about Jesus , he was a prophet and much more . You either accept all that Jesus is , or you reject all .

first lets agree that jesus was just a human being and not a divinity or part of a divinity,yes,he was allahs word,but lets not carried away and call jesus God.then we can have better discussion.

the reason we reject the teachings of jesus is because his teachings were altered,corrupted over time as Allah tells us.

 

no one can forgive sins except the most merciful,the forgiver,the decision to forgive sins doesnt lie in the hand of a human,saint,prophet,angel etc,it is the almighty God,the living,the sustainer and the creator of the universe that can forgive sins and he forgives even if your sins are high as a cloud.Jesus will never become  arrogant to serve ,glorify and worship almighty God,the supreme reality.

 

I dont believe jesus said he can forgive sins,but he used to bring back the dead ,cure the sick with allahs wishes.

 

prophet Jeus didnt die for the sins of humans,that is utter false,your sins are yours,only god can forgive sins.

and the way to get saved,to enjoy eternal jannah bliss , all  is through Islam submitting to God.

Brothers,Almighty Allah is the most merciful,he can forgive sins for who ever he wishes on the day of judgement but associating partners like with him like Son,stone etc and making co-equal with almighty God is a grave unforgivable sin which entitles eternal perdition and hell.

may Allah save us from shirk.

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[ECLIPSE 15]

Hi Noom3 , of course you don't believe any of what Jesus taught , and that is because you are a Muslim and not a Christian . You are free to believe whatever you wish . However the words that Jesus spoke and were recorded by his disciples can not be changed simply because you say so , or whoever taught you says so.

We are responsible only for our own souls. You for yours and I for mine . Believe what you wish.

 

Just a thought for you to consider Noom3 , there 60 seconds in a minute, and 3600 seconds in an hour . How many of those seconds are spent thinking good thoughts or about good things?

Edited July 19, 2017 by ECLIPSE

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Jesus is NOT God: he was just a good Prophet and Messenger.