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Opposition protesters in Egypt have clashed with members of the governing Muslim Brotherhood in several towns, leaving scores of people injured.

In Cairo, the protesters ransacked one Brotherhood office, while in Mahalla in the Nile Delta the Islamist movement's headquarters was set on fire.

Riot police fired tear gas as the two sides pelted each other with stones.

Egypt has been rocked by violent protests this year, which have left dozens dead and many more injured.

Divided country

On Friday, several thousand activists supporters marched to Cairo's Mokattam area to face Brotherhood supporters and police guarding the movement's headquarters.

Clashes erupted soon afterwards, and the riot police had to use tear gas to keep the two sides apart.

Two buses owned by the Islamists were reportedly set on fire.

"We came to the stronghold of the Brotherhood. No more protests in front of the presidential palace because those ruling Egypt are here,'' protester Hamat Awat was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.

Meanwhile, Brotherhood offices were ransacked by protesters in another part of Cairo and also in the second-largest city Alexandria.

In Mahalla, petrol bombs were thrown at the Islamist office, setting the building on fire, the state-run Mena news agency reported.

A number of Brotherhood supporters said they had arrived from neighbouring towns to protect their movement.

The Brotherhood has recently seen several of its officers attacked across the country in protests against President Mohammed Morsi, the Islamist candidate who won last June's elections.

The secular opposition accuses Mr Morsi of seeking to usurp power - a charge he denies.

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I don't understand why you used the word "terrorists" with the word secular, when the terrorists are actually the Muslim brotherhood. They kill people, and together with the police, they kidnap and torture many young Egyptians in police camps, many of them died in torture.
Before the January 25th revolution, the Egyptians always sided with the MB. But after taking control of Egypt, their promises turned into lies. They did not do anything to the poor, they did not do any changes to police torture, which was the prime reason for starting the revolution. The economy is going down fast, and security is almost lost. They refuse to share the government with other parties, but they are not qualified to run the country on their own. That doesn't disturb them at all. It turned out that the MB don't care for Egypt, they only want to grasp power. The result: Egyptians no longer support the MB. This showed clear in university students' elections last week, where the MB lost almost all seats. Public polls show that people want early elections to oust the president, who follow the orders of MB murshid (leader), not the people of Egypt.

Egypt, under the rule of the MB, is sinking.

Protesters always start their events in piece. It is the MB who turn it into violence. They are brainwashed to think that protesters, whom you call secular, are kafirs, because they think of themselves as the. In fact, they are the worstrepresentative of Islam. A true Muslim don't lie, don't cheat, and don't alley with torturers and enemies of the nation. The MB does all that. None of that was clear, until they came to power. Now everyone hates them. But that has nothing to do with Islam. They are not Islam.

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Muslim brotherhood has some errors, but setting fire on humans, attacking around 30 offices, throwing bombs, catching and beating MB members even when one was going to Hospital through ambulance can no way be acts of civilized human. There is no doubt that these protesters could have done a lot lot better, and they are also acting like terrorists. 

And, I don't think Egypt can come out of it's economical problem so easily whether it's MB or other groups running the country after the tumult that has happened before. This will take quite a lot of time to recover. I will give MB more time.

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This is something I have been following from afar. It is never good when protests turn violent. From what I have seen from western media the MB needs to pay closer attention to what the people of Egypt want. My opinion though is just that opinion. I am not there first hand nor live with what goes on daily. 

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The violance always start by the police or MB thugs. On the other side, thugs, not demonstrators, set fire and loot MB headquarters, cars.. etc. The "secular" protesters never do such things. They always make peaceful demonstrations.

The MB never listen. They blindly follow their murshid, and no one else. All members are completely brainwashed. They only understand dictatorship, that's how they were raised and trained to follow. They are far away from real Islam.

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Is there truth to the story of what Fox News is reporting in the story below? Or is there more to it, that the western media is reporting? Sounds like things are starting to get worse.

 

 

Egyptian Masjid turned into house of torture for Christians after Muslim Brotherhood protest

Published March 26, 2013

FoxNews.com

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    Amir Ayad lies in a hospital bed after he was allegedly beaten by Islamic hardliners who stormed a Masjid in suburban Cairo. (MidEast Christian News)

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    Protesters chant in front of the general prosecutor's office in Cairo this week after the arrest of a prominent blogger and four others following violent clashes between supporters and opponents of the Muslim Brotherhood. (AP Photo/Khalil Hamra)

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    Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi is under fire from Copts and moderate Muslims, but violent militias are fighting his opponents in the streets. (AP) (AP/Egypt State TV)

Islamic hard-liners stormed a Masjid in suburban Cairo, turning it into torture chamber for Christians who had been demonstrating against the ruling Muslim Brotherhood in the latest case of violent persecution that experts fear will only get worse.

Such stories have become increasingly common as tensions between Egypt’s Muslims and Copts mount, but in the latest case, mosque officials corroborated much of the account and even filed a police report. Demonstrators, some of whom were Muslim, say they were taken from the Muslim Brotherhood headquarters in suburban Cairo to a nearby Masjid on Friday and tortured for hours by hard-line militia members.

 

“There is no longer anything to hold them back. The floodgates are open.”

- Shaul Gabbay, University of Denver professor on Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood

 

“They accompanied me to one of the Masjids in the area and I discovered the Masjid was being used to imprison demonstrators and torture them,” Amir Ayad, a Coptic who has been a vocal protester against the regime, told MidEast Christian Newsexternal-link.png from a hospital bed.

Ayad said he was beaten for hours with sticks before being left for dead on a roadside. Amir’s brother, Ezzat Ayad, said he received an anonymous phone call at 3 a.m. Saturday, with the caller saying his brother had been found near death and had been taken to the ambulance.

“He underwent radiation treatment that proved that he suffered a fracture in the bottom of his skull, a fracture in his left arm, a bleeding in the right eye, and birdshot injuries,” Ezzat Ayad said.

Officials at the Bilal ibn Rabah Masjid said radical militias stormed the building, in the Cairo suburb of Moqattam, after Friday prayers.

“[We] deeply regret what has happened and apologize to the people of Moqattam,” mosque officials said in a statementexternal-link.png, adding that “they had lost control over the Masjid at the time."

The statement also “denounced and condemned the violence and involving Masjids in political conflicts.”

The latest crackdown is further confirmation that the Muslim Brotherhood’s most hard-line elements are consolidating control in Egypt, according to Shaul Gabbay, a professor of international studies at the University of Denver.

“It will only get worse,” said Gabbay. “This has been a longstanding conflict, but now that the Muslim Brotherhood is in power, it is moving forward to implement its ideology – which is that Christians are supposed to become Muslims.

“There is no longer anything to hold them back,” he continued. “The floodgates are open.”

Gabbay said the violent militias that allegedly tortured Ayad work hand-in-hand with police and may, in fact, be beyond the control of increasingly unpopular President Mohammed Morsi. While he may benefit from roving bands that attack demonstrators, they also undermine his claim of being a legitimate leader.

“Egyptian society is split over the Morsi regime, and it is not just a Coptic-Muslim split,” Gabbay said. “The less conservative elements of the Muslim society are increasingly uneasy with the Muslim Brotherhood. The Christian Copts are an easy target, but they are not alone in their mistrust of the Brotherhood.”

Experts agreed that the Copts, who comprise roughly 10 percent of the nation’s 83 million people, are not alone in their opposition to the Muslim Brotherhood, which took power in hotly contested elections following the 2011 ouster of longtime President Hosni Mubarak. Moderate Muslims and secular liberals are increasingly uncomfortable with the Islamization of the government.  

Sheikh Ahmed Saber, a well-known imam and official in Egypt’s Ministry of Endowments, has blasted Morsi’s justice ministry for allowing persecution of Copts.

“All Egyptians in general are oppressed, but Christians are particularly oppressed, because they suffer double of what others suffer,” Saber told MCN.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/26/egyptian-mosque-turned-into-house-torture-for-christians-after-muslim/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2Oh2UmrG0

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Its true, and confirmed, that MB kidnapped protesters and tortured them in a nearby masjid. But that was not targeted specifically towards Christians. A Christian happened to be among the protesters, that's all. Western media always likes to show things as if its a Christian-Muslim conflict.

The issue is not regarding Christians alone, its the MB against the rest of the Egyptians. Once they grasped power, they want it all. President Morsi is putting MB members everywhere in the government. He employed 13,000 MB members in all kind of government positions so far. There is a very strong public demand for early elections, and street demonstrations are everywhere, but he said that he will never give up his 4-year term, and that he would sacrifice his neck against it. He clings to the votes that he won in the poll (about 52%). Egyptians now feel a deep bitter regret that they gave him their votes. The problem is that most Egyptians are poor, a lot of them un-educated, and they would say YES to anyone Islamic, specially if they receive any souvenirs/small election bribes. The MB always distribute free stuff to the poor when its time for the polls. Simple things like a bag of sugar, rice or a bottle of veg oil. No other party or candidate has such financial powers or resources.

 

Its confirmed with videos and testimonies that MB tortured protesters in many occasions, Muslims and Christians alike. If you are not a Morsi supporter, you are their enemy. Morsi appointed an Attorney general loyal to the MB, so he never orders any investigations with the MB, yet he's super fast to arrest revolution famous figures, even without doing police inquiries first.

 

The MB are pushing the country towards violence. They think that they are doing jihad, while in fact they are just brainwashed dictators.

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TY for updating the situation for me Dot. I figured there was a little more to it than was reported. Fox is probably one of the more reliable sources in the U.S. Though it carries a slant like most media. 

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